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Re: Fading In (and Out) of recording segments

Subject: Re: Fading In (and Out) of recording segments
From: "Philip Tyler" macmang4125
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2008 11:01 am ((PDT))
Another thing worth doing is to make sure the selection you are removing is=
 'zero crossing' on the in and out, this will stop any 'clicks creeping in =
at the join. Audition is usually set up as Shift I or Shift O which will mo=
ve the selection In or Out to the nearest zero crossing point.
Audition can also play across a highlighted section as if its not there, de=
pending on the version and how you have it set it can be either Alt R or Sh=
ift R as the key combination. You will also need to set a pre and post roll=
 value, then using the relevant key combination it will play the pre roll u=
p to the start of the highlighted section then skip and play from the end o=
f the highlighted section for the post roll so you hear it as if you had ac=
tually made the edit. I find this invaluable for removing obtrusive sounds =
and such things as passing planes and the like. You can also set the Play b=
utton to do this by Right clicking it or Control clicking, but remember onc=
e set this way it will remain like that until you change it back.

Phil


----- Original Message ----
From: John Hartog <>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 June, 2008 5:25:24 PM
Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: Fading In (and Out) of recording segments


I don't know about Cool Edit but at least in Audition 1.5 there is a
setting "Options>Settings> Data>Smoooth all edit boundaries by
crossfading __ ms". Mine is set to 3 ms which seems to work fine - I
think that was the default setting.  I'm not sure if this applies
Multitrack View but in Edit view it does well at seamlessly splicing
out a cut section given similar content on either side.  Spectral View
is handy for finding a good spots between events to place a cut
without breaking the natural rhythm.

John Hartog

--- In naturerecordists@ yahoogroups. com, "William Ruscher Jr."
< .> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
>          I think myself and many others in the group would benefit
> from the topic being further discussed. I've often thought about how
> best to chop out an undesired sound in my recordings and be able to
> crossfade at that point , to continue the longer recording with
> things still sounding continuous and natural. I've always broken
> recordings up into smaller tracks at the point of the chop, in the
> past. It looks like using the editing software is an art in itself,
> not unlike a studio recording mix, and certainly a technique of it's
> own.  I can't contribute much myself at this point, but stand to
> learn by members continuing this discussion.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>            Bill
>
>
>
> --- In naturerecordists@ yahoogroups. com, "John Hartog"
> <hartogj_1999@ > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> > Even though the immediate issue for you has faded out, I think it is
> > still a topic worthy of fading back in for further discussion. For
> > instance, how separated in the natural time line can two sections of
> > recording be before an invisible crossfade becomes deceptive?
> >
> > For albums, I usually address the issue by inserting a new track at
> > each crossfade and labeling each track with the date and time.
> Though
> > I may have chopped out several circles of a circling fly and also
> the
> > second close-up merganser burp (that sounded to human) on one album
> > without mention.
> >
> > John Hartog
>




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