Many thanks, Clay for your constructive views.... they certainly do
not go on deaf ears...
Martyn
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On May 28, 2008, at 6:59 PM, clay wrote:
> Martyn,
>
> I appreciate the situation you find yourself in here.
>
> I'm mostly a lurker, but still an everyday reader of the group. I also
> belong to quite a few other Yahoo groups, and am moderator on a couple
> (neither of which I started), so I have some thoughts I'd like to
> share.
>
> In my experience, I've seen many splinter groups come and (mostly)
> go - some
> with coordination of moderator of the main group, some not. In most
> all
> instances, I've seen the sum of the parts become much less than the
> sum AS a
> whole. I fear for the group as a whole based on my past experience.
>
> Also, I'd like to comment on Dan's comment regarding 'elite'. I may be
> viewing this incorrectly, but my view is that the elite being
> referred to
> are those who don't/can't/won't use email filters to eliminate what
> they
> don't want to read.. In essence all of this commotion is due to
> people who
> will not avoid/delete/filter emails that they are not interested in.
> Given the likely negatives (again, IME) of having two groups, I
> believe this
> to be a selfish viewpoint of those who want a separate (fractional)
> group.
>
> Consider posts that are non gear related that are posted in the
> original
> group. If they are not cross-posted, the members in the splinter
> group will
> miss out individually, as will the group as a whole (meaning the
> collective
> list of members).
>
> In order for this NOT to happen, those who wanted the separate group
> have to
> ask those who did not to do extra work in order to retain the
> advantages of
> the original group.
>
> If they are cross-posted, people who now have to subscribe to two
> lists (via
> email) will get duplicates. And then, of course, some replies will be
> cross-posted and some will not, etc., etc.. Unless, there is/was a
> majority
> of typical posters (as opposed to 1400 mostly lurking members such as
> myself) clamoring for this splinter group, it is my strong opinion
> that the
> results will lessen the group more that the gain (if any) of those
> wanting a
> separate group.
>
> I hope I'm wrong, but experience tells me I won't be.
>
> FWIW, I support your decision here, and your right to make whatever
> decision
> you feel is warranted.
>
> Cheers,
> Clay
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Martyn Stewart
> <>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Now that there is another list of nature recordists who prefer to
> NOT
> > talk gear, i may get some relief from the many e-mails and comments
> > that have followed this subject whenever i talk about the group.
> > There is no excuse anymore to bring up the "too much tech talk"
> people
> > can happily talk gear/field craft/experiences/ In their chosen
> group,
> > I will continue to do both and anyone who doesn't like one
> particular
> > thread, they have a sanctuary to post in..
> > Is there a chance now that we can get on with each other?
> > There is NO ELITE group that is better than the other as was
> suggested
> > by one member, just a bunch of people with certain preferences...
> >
> > Martyn
> > *************************************
> > Martyn Stewart
> > http://www.naturesound.org
> >
> > Redmond WA
> > 425-898-0462
> >
> > Make every garden a wildlife habitat
> > **************************************
> > Listen to the Birds and the Bees at
> > http://naturesound.libsyn.org/
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > View a Nature Recordists Blog!
> >
> > http://naturesound.org/Nature_Blog/Nature_Blog.html
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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