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Re: [gear] MKH 8040 sample comparison (raw files)

Subject: Re: [gear] MKH 8040 sample comparison (raw files)
From: "Rob Danielson" danielson_audio
Date: Sat May 3, 2008 12:18 am ((PDT))
I agree with comments that they are quite similar. I (physically) 
can't hear much above 10K Hz so I leave that part of the spectrum to 
others.

Here's a movie playing the same minimum presence clip from both mic 
pairs in a loop:
http://tinyurl.com/3ou3rp (~3mb)

(All of the QuickTime movies have 48K/24 bit soundtracks. The mk-21 
pair is boosted +1dB & panned slightly to right)

Here's a movie with the same minimum presence but with each mic pair 
equalized s bit to more closely match high/low tonal balance (under 
10K Hz)
http://tinyurl.com/3we4ah (~3mb)

Another movie/short clip with closer bird song, looping:
http://tinyurl.com/4ww2zo (~4mb)

Another movie/short clip with closer bird song, looping:
http://tinyurl.com/4o3cmf (~4 mb)

I listened to the recordings entirely on headphones. To my ears, the 
MK-21's/rig creates a slightly more spacious recording evident in the 
clarity and localization of the echoes. The MK-21's wide cardiod 
polar pattern could be involved.  I feel the MKH8040 exhibits a bit 
more lower mid-range exaggeration.  Rob D.

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At 9:56 AM -0700 5/2/08, Tim Nielsen wrote:
>Greg, thanks for posting. At some point here I'll do a comparison
>between my Schoeps MK2 omnis and a pair of MKH8020 omnis that I'm
>probably going to buy.
>
>To me, the overall sound quality between the recordings is very close.
>You can hear a tad more brightness in the Sennheisers, probably
>because of their extended range.
>
>I would agree that the V3 shouldn't be introducing any difference
>worth discussion, it's a very close match to the Sound Devices preamp,
>both are very quiet and high quality.
>
>One thing that's pretty interesting to hear, if you have ProTools, or
>some editing program that lets you play half speed, quarter speed,
>have a listen between them. At normal speed, the recordings sound very
>close. At half speed, the Sennheiser will appear to have a LOT more
>noise, which has to be the extended frequency at work, the Schoeps is
>rolling off all that high frequency air, which the Sennheiser at 96k
>can capture. It's quite a startling difference in quality. And seems
>pretty evident that if you want to record material in that 20k to 60k
>range, the Sennheisers should be able to do it.
>
>Tim
>
>On May 1, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Greg Weddig wrote:
>
>>  Point taken,
>>  Here are the two samples , previously posted, without any changes, no
>>  eq, no normalization.
>>
>>  Schoeps MK21 SD 744t:
>> 
>><http://gregweddig.net/prettyboy/Schoeps_mk21_ortf_2496_sample_raw.wav>http://gregweddig.net/prettyboy/Schoeps_mk21_ortf_2496_sample_raw.wav
>>  or
>>  <http://tinyurl.com/3ek5as>http://tinyurl.com/3ek5as
>>  ~~~~~~
>>  Sennheiser MKH 8040, Grace Lunatec V3, SF 744t
>> 
>><http://gregweddig.net/prettyboy/sennheiser_8040_ortf_2496_sample_raw.wav>http://gregweddig.net/prettyboy/sennheiser_8040_ortf_2496_sample_raw.wav
>>  or
>>  <http://tinyurl.com/4c3qmd>http://tinyurl.com/4c3qmd
>>
>>  --greg weddig
>>  Baltimore, MD
>>  <http://gregweddig.net>http://gregweddig.net
>>
>>  --- In 
>><naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> 
>>Rob Danielson <>
>>  wrote:
>>  >
>>  > At 3:29 PM +0000 5/1/08, Greg Weddig wrote:
>>  >
>>  > > Bottom end is rolled off starting at about 250Hz.
>>  >
>>  > A real gradual curve? There could be differences in response and
>>  > impact on sound quality under 250 Hz that would be good to know
>>  about
>>  > before purchase. So fussy, Rob D.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > --
>>  >
>>
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