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----- Original Message ----
From: Bernie Krause <>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:16:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] What is a natural sound?
Again, I haven't read all the threads, Rory. Nor followed it. I will
say that the interweaving of biophony,
geophony, anthrophony is a thesis that's just beginning to be
explored and is both simple and complex
at the same time. The more one delves into the relationships, the
more we find we need to go
yet deeper. The answers aren't clear as "nature" is very slow to
reveal her secrets. Perhaps we'll never
make the connections, nor should we. Studies of this nature are
currently underway at two Big Ten
universities in the US: Michigan State University (Envirosonics
Department), and Purdue (Dept of Forestry),
where this thesis is currently being taught and embraced. Those
venues probably could address
your questions more thoroughly.
Bernie
On Aug 21, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Rory wrote:
> Bernie,
>
> To be specific, if you have evidence that 20,000-30,000 nesting
> seabirds on the upper reaches of a rock that rises 30-40 meters
> from the ocean make a collective racket that protects them from
> predators, just like your frogs, and that their collective noise
> disguising the existence of individual victims is compromised by a
> fog horn half a mile away, just like your jet plane, I'd love to
> hear about it.
>
> I'd also love to hear about how this theory applies to the other
> examples in this thread.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
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