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Subject: Re: sound with video
From: "cfmspencer" cfmspencer
Date: Fri Jun 9, 2006 6:24 am (PDT)
--- In  Rob Danielson <>
wrote:
>
>
> At 2:42 AM +0000 6/9/06, cfmspencer wrote:
> >
> >I've seen the beachteks at B&H,
>
> Welcome to the list, Clay.

thanks

>
> Oryoki's right, too-- about having a separate sound recorder. I
> prefer to be able to let my audio "roll" when conditions are right
> during a trek and not be generating so many video bits when I'm
> really waiting for a sound,..

no doubt, and I'm sure I will want to do the same,

my aim is to figure out the absolute lightest
weight high quality setup possible, so that I can
actually run/jog to far reaching destinations,
or said another way, come up with a 'minimal' kit
that I would never even consider leaving at the
trailhead becuase it weighed too much.
if I'm hiking only, then sure,
a separate high quality sound recorder will
be ideal, and I will no doubt wind up with
a setup for recording sans video.

> The word on upcoming HD sound formats
> involve more compression. But far be it from me to discourage good
> sound with video!
>
> I'm sure Beachtek has different models, but the unit that uses the
> camcorder's mic input "power in plug" (PIP) to supply phantom
power
> is under-impressive.

I was suggested to use a DXA-6,
9 volt provides phantom power,
but no gain.  I believe the DX-8
offers gain and a limiter.

both screw right onto the bottom of the camera,
with corresponding tripod sockets on the bottom.


I took a listen to one trying to power-up some
> MKH's on a TRV900 and a VX1000 last Fall and rather than mess with
it
> further, I just scrapped it for an Art Phantom II (at $150 less).
You
> can bypass the xlr outputs and add a ~14" long unbalanced lead to
> a"true" 3.5mm gold plug at the end. You can bolt the Art onto the
> base of the camera the same way and glue or bolt a 1/4" think
plate
> on the bottom side with 1/4"-20 tap for the tripod bolt. With an
Art
> (or a Rolls PB224), you can start testing the affects of the
> camcorder's mic pre and MPGII to hear what it all sounds like.

thanks for the tips,
I'll check out the NTG-2 using the XLR->stereo mini cable this
weekend, and also try using the XLR unit that comes with the camera.

someone suggested a Shure A96F XLR to mini cable which has a
transformer in it I believe to convert from lo impedance to medium
impedance (providing gain), and it blocked the DC from the PIP.  is
this useful? or a gimmick?    if the mic preamp in the camera is
really bad, I suppose any gain (without noise?) would be a help???

>
> An MKH-30 would make a light-weight, shotgun M-S pair with your
> NTG-2. If that is too rich, you could explore spaced omni's with
> AT3032's.  I'm sure you wouldn't be wasting your money or time.
The
> world could use a lot more camcorders properly dwarfed by low
noise
> condenser mics. Rob D.

thanks Rob, for your response and your advice,
cheers,
clay


>
>
>
> >cheers,
> >clay
> >
> >
>
>
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