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Re: Babbling Brook or runny toilet?!?

Subject: Re: Babbling Brook or runny toilet?!?
From: "cmursic"
Date: Wed May 31, 2006 5:43 am (PDT)
Thanks, Bernie.  You have just exp[lained why some recordings I made
of the rain falling in a forest near Hilo, Hawaii, (and believe me, it
DOES rain there a lot) sound almost unlistenable when I play them back
on my home stereo (and it's not the stereo's fault).  It sounds
totally unrealistic, and the imaging is...well, wrong.  They were all
taken from the same vantage point and distance.  Same is true for surf
sounds I captured there.  Should have moved back and forth a bit, to
get different perspectives.
Regards,
Caesar

--- In  Wild Sanctuary <> wrote:
>
> Right you are, Stuart. The most difficult sounds to record are the
> effects of wind, and water. Took ten years to figure out that because
> of the limitations of microphone technology, wave sounds at the ocean
> cannot be recorded in one pass with the expectation that the illusion
> will be the same when reduced to a stereo and/or surround playback
> system. To get the best illusion (all soundscapes are illusions from
> good to bad) at the ocean, it is best to record examples of near
> field, mid-field and far field, then mix them in post production.
> Same goes for white water streams. To create a credible illusion of
> water, you need a sense of space and detail.
>
> Got my lardy butt nailed once in a Wall Street Journal interview
> (mid-90s) when I admitted to the journalist that my first natural
> sound recording experience for "In A Wild Sanctuary," our first album
> for Warner Brothers (1970) and the first recording ever to use
> natural sounds as a component of orchestration, I had been unable to
> get a good natural stream sound and was reduced to recording the
> trickle of water in my toilet to capture the illusion of a stream in
> that one instance and for that one cut. The headline on the front
> page read "The Stream on Your Nature CD Could Be The Sound of a
> Toilet." I was devastated.
>
> Bernie
>
> >Nice recording. I wonder what it might sound like with the mic a bit
> >further away? Have you access to Bernie's book Wild Soundscapes? He
> >makes some comments about recording the sound of surf in the first
> >three tracks of the CD.
> >
> >Cheers from Down Under.  Stuart Fairbairn.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Microphones are not ears,
> >Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >A listening room is not nature."
> >Klas Strandberg
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Wild Sanctuary
> P. O. Box 536
> Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> t. 707-996-6677
> f. 707-996-0280
> http://www.wildsanctuary.com
>







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