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Re: Bottoming-out revisited

Subject: Re: Bottoming-out revisited
From: Rob Danielson <>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:22:07 -0600
re:
>http://www.trackseventeen.com/media/tsp/x050809-thunder.mp3

Very Fun. Are there a couple of surfaces to the
right with the first discharge? Seems very short
for slap-back echo within the cloud itself,
unless it was _really_ close. The second
discharge seems more like echo within the clouds.
Terrific relief and movement-- Recorded with your
wedge?  Two cardinals emerging from the illusion
of one, the back-up warning closure. :-)!

I guess we know what we could test for now to pin
it down to the 183's or HiMD or both. Rob D.

At 8:58 PM -0600 1/24/06, Curt Olson wrote:
>Me:
>
>>>  Since I was able to duplicate the problem from the line input,
>
>Rob D:
>
>>  "Line"input Sorry !:-[  With and 183 or another mic -> pre-> line->
>>  HiMD?
>
>Both. My definitive test was (if I remember right): 183 > ART Phantom
>II > Lexicon PCM 91 (for some gain and ADC) > ProTools > Waves L2
>hardware box (for DAC) > Hi-MD line in. This caused the Hi-MD to bottom
>out exactly the same as 183 > Hi-MD mic in w/ PIP. High-pass filtering
>in ProTools of around 6db/octave beginning at 100 hz or so eliminated
>the problem.
>
>And it's not just the 183s. Last week I ran a quick test with: AT3032 >
>ART Phantom II > Hi-MD mic. It also bottomed out, but not as bad as the
>183s. Switching in the low-cut filter on the 3032s seemed to eliminate
>the problem -- or at least reduce it greatly.
>
>>>  I suspect the weak link to be either the final line driver or the ADC
>>>  (ADC seems the more likely culprit to me).
>>
>>  I should try to reproduce this on my HiMD's with sine tones. When you
>>  posted this result, I was on the lookout for it. On three, 90 minute
>>  recordings I made last summer of loud, low, Hz thunder rumbles ->=A0
>>  NT1A's -> RollsPB224 -> NH-900 HiMD@ rec level "7 -13" ("hi sens"),
>>  none overloaded or showed the odd waveform.  NT1A-s have a big bump=A0
>>  under 30Hz. Rob D.
>
>This is interesting! Last summer I recorded a couple wonderful thunder
>claps almost directly overhead. Set-up was: 183 stereo array > Hi-MD
>mic in w/ PIP. Nice and clean, with no bottoming out. There must be
>something unique about the sound of thunder...
>
>http://www.trackseventeen.com/media/tsp/x050809-thunder.mp3
>
>Curt Olson
>



--
Rob Danielson
Film Department
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee


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