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Re: 722 HiMD MicroTrack Test#2

Subject: Re: 722 HiMD MicroTrack Test#2
From: Rob Danielson <>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:00:32 -0600
The problem may be that Window is not allowing QuickTime to launch up
as plug-in within your browser. If you set your Browser preferences
to make QuickTime the default application for ".mov" files, the
movies should play in your browser. Fox Fire is also very QT
friendly. That said, many PC and Mac people prefer to use "VLC,"
which is  a free, free-standing player.
   http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html

I uploaded a mpg4 movie for VLP here:
http://www.uwm.edu/~type/Mic%20Preamps/MicroTrack_NH900_722Comp2.mp4


Short of the movie, here's an mp3.
http://www.uwm.edu/~type/Mic%20Preamps/MicroTrack_NH900_722Compare2.mp3

0- 3.5 secs: NT1-A's->Sound Devices 722 at Full Gain
3.5 -7 secs: NT1-As ->RollsPB224->Sony NH900 HiMD at record setting "28"
7 - 10 secs: Nt1-As'->MicroTracker 2496 in H position; +27 Gain and Full Ga=
in
10- 13 secs: Nt1A's -> MP2 External Mic  Gain -> MicroTracker
2496 Line Input@ Unity
13- 17 secs: NT1-As ->RollsPB224->Sony NH900 HiMD at record setting "28"

Output Comparisons:
Reference: Rolls PB224->HiMD: 0dB
Sound Devices 722: -8dB
MicroTracker 2496: -21dB
MP2->MicroTracker Line In: -8dB

Here's a spectragraph that Gianni kindly made.  The five sections can
be seen within the black columns.
http://www.uwm.edu/~type/Mic%20Preamps/MicroTrack_NH900_722Compare2.jpg

Rob D.
  =3D =3D =3D =3D

At 10:03 PM +0100 11/14/05, Klas Strandberg wrote:
>Rob, I have so bad experiences with Quick-Time messing up my pc. Can you
>please make a summary in words? Or send sound files only, to yahoo?
>
>Klas.
>
>
>>Hi--
>>I re-did the test comparing Rode Nt1-A mics (5.5dBA self noise)
>>through the 722, HiMD & Microtrack pres/recorders.
>>
>>As I suspected, the whine on one segment in the first test was from a
>>computer in sleep mode in the next room when the door was cracked
>>open a tiny bit. The traffic rumble is at 3am on a Monday morning-
>>the least I can get, basically. The playback levels are matched both
>>by ear and by measurement and splitting the difference. This gives a
>>lower Hz weighting which actually makes the hiss differences less
>>noticeable.
>>
>>I added another test segment inserting an MP2 external mic preamp
>>before the Microtrack's line input.
>>
>>The relative levels matched test #1  in terms of levels which is
>>encouraging except MT's mic input was a little closer to -21dB of the
>>reference NH-900's, rather than -20dB. The splkes you can see @ ~14K
>>are in the Rode mics.  The spikes show much more with the 722 and the
>>MP2->MT. Rob D.
>>
>>Two versions:
>>Larger with uncompressed 48K/16 sound:
>>http://www.uwm.edu/~type/Mic%20Preamps/MicroTrack_NH900_722Compare2.mov
>>
>>Small with compressed IMA4 sound:
>>http://www.uwm.edu/~type/Mic%20Preamps/MicroTrack_NH900_722Comp2_IMA4.mov
>>
>>
>>At 1:57 PM +0000 11/14/05, unprofildeface wrote:
>>  >--- In  Jim Lee
>>  >wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >>  Rob,
>>  >  > Any chance you could include the Edirol R-1 in your revised round =
of
>>  >>  testing? Klas indicates it is quieter and has a couple of other
>>  >>  advantages as well. A head to head comparison between the Edirol an=
d
>>  >>  MicroTrack devices would really useful to people looking to get sta=
rted
>>  >>  on a budget. Has such a comparison already been done somewhere else=
.
>>  >>  Those two devices seem to be the only real contenders at that price
>>  >>  point (MD excluded).
>>  >
>>  >Hello Jim
>>  >You can check this URL, though you'll need to register
>>  >(but it's free, and really worthy):
>>  >http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=3D50566.0;all
>>  >The Edirol R-1 preamp isn't really quiet, but it has
>>  >pretty nice A/D converters - if you can plug a good
>>  >external mic preamp (with phantom power if you need
>>  >it) in its line input, I guess you'll be happy.
>>  >The MicroTrack's phantom power is only 30V, not 48V
>>  >as one would expect..... that's pretty useless with
>  > >many condenser microphones. So you'd better have a
>>  >close look to the R-1 -- except if you're the happy
>>  >owner of a good preamp + A/D converter like the Lunatec
>>  >v3, in which situation you could use the SP/DIF digital
>>  >input from the MicroTrack.
>>  >Have a nice day!
>>  >Matt
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >"Microphones are not ears,
>>  >Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>  >A listening room is not nature."
>>  >Klas Strandberg
>>  >Yahoo! Groups Links
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>
>>
>>--
>>Rob Danielson
>>Film Department
>>University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
>>
>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Microphones are not ears,
>>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>A listening room is not nature."
>>Klas Strandberg
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
>S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
>Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
>email: 
>         
>
>
>
>
>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Rob Danielson
Film Department
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee

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"Microphones are not ears,
Loudspeakers are not birds,
A listening room is not nature."
Klas Strandberg
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