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Re: 722 vs [was] NT1-A and moisture

Subject: Re: 722 vs [was] NT1-A and moisture
From: Tim Nielsen <>
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:02:10 -0700
Rob, I just ordered a pair of the NT1A's to play with. The price is=20
pretty amazing, $400 for the pair (not matched of course, but I hope=20
they're close enough). I'm wondering, how are you using them in=20
Stereo? I'm mainly interested in them for recording on the Stage,=20
recording quiet sound FX, but I'll likely take them out and record=20
some very quiet night ambience, to see how they sound compared to my=20
various Schoeps (omni's versus MS). Are you doing sort of an XT=20
setup? Or are you spacing them apart?

I think when we talk about various mics being built to be used in the=20
field, often (at least myself) are mainly referring to the ease of=20
getting them inside a stable shockmount, and a good windscreen. So=20
the Rycote or Lightwave setup. That's partly why the MKH or the=20
Schoeps CMC series are great, you can really get them stable for hand-
held use in the field.

But the NT1A looks like a fun mic, we'll see when I get them.=20
Certainly for the price it's worth a shot.


On Jun 21, 2005, at 6:55 AM, Rob Danielson wrote:

> We're getting close to realizing we can't make
> useful generalizations about MD pres and best
> refer to particular mic- preamp combinations when
> making comments or judgements. I can't see what
> there is to gain by generalizing about condenser
> mics in outdoor use.  If was true, why does the
> mkh 30 go out first sometimes?  I've been using
> NT1-A's in the field for two years now, that
> wouldn't be the case if they were unreliable.
> There are spec sheets on line at Rode. I
> understand that the NT1A and 2A are unusual
> circuits as mics go. The electronics seal is
> decent. You have to keep direct water contact off
> of the capsule. Rob D.
>   =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D
> At 2:38 PM +0200 6/21/05, Klas Strandberg wrote:
> >People - all condensor mic's are unreliable in the wilderness,=20
> except the
> >MKH. It is not a matter of brand, but of construction.
> >With it's RF modulation and membrane connected to ground, the MKH has
> >outstanding reliability.
> >
> >Question: I hear a lot on the list about the perfection of R=F6de=20
> mic's..? I
> >don't find them outstanding. I think they perform about the same=20
> as a lot
> >of other mic's. Good, but no sensation...?
> >And even if very carefully made, they must be unreliable in humidity.
> >How high is the polarizing voltage? Anybody know?
> >
> >Klas.
> >
> >At 05:56 2005-06-21, you wrote:
> >>  > <<<<Now we as a group have to talk Rhode into an Omni version of
> >>  > the NT-1a
> >>  > as it clearly is outperforming the mkh line at a lot less
> >>  > money.>>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>Whoa! That's a dangerous statement. Noise floor is only one spec for
> >>a microphone. It's not fair to compare the MKH line to this mic, I
> >>think for a couple of reasons:
> >>
> >>1) The MKH are designed to be rugged, very resistant to humidity,
> >>etc. The NT1A is clearly a studio mic, has anyone actually taken it
> >>out into the field.
> >>
> >>2) How do they 'sound'. I buy Schoeps because in spite of their
> >>higher noise (to the MKH) I think they're the best sounding mics in
> >>the world. I love the imaging I get, and I personally think they
> >>sound better than the MKH (which are great, don't get me wrong). But
> >>the MKH are way better for humid recording, the Schoeps may very=20
> well
> >>crap out (although I've never had it happen yet).
> >>
> >>But noise floor alone is no way to decide between mics.
> >>
> >>That being said, I think I'll buy one of these, might make a good
> >>studio mic for recording very quiet sound effects
> >>
> >>Tim
> >>
> >>
> >>"Microphones are not ears,
> >>Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >>A listening room is not nature."
> >>Klas Strandberg
> >>Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> >S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> >Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> >email: 
> >         
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Microphones are not ears,
> >Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >A listening room is not nature."
> >Klas Strandberg
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> --
> Rob Danielson
> Film Department
> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
> "Microphones are not ears,
> Loudspeakers are not birds,
> A listening room is not nature."
> Klas Strandberg
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