At 11:03 AM -0500 2/11/05, Walter Knapp wrote:
>From: D & m <>
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>> Over the last couple of months I have noticed some discussion over Shure
>> 183's which certainly got me interested in finding out more. Am I
>> assuming right members are acquiring MX 183 rather than WL 183 and with
>> the MX they using the cartridge only and not using the house (MX 183/N)
>> . After checking 4 search engines only can find only one distributer
>> which there must be more than that. Any suggestions being in mind I'm in
>> Australia.
> > David
>
>Dan Dugan got it all started a while back with his shoulder mounted
>ones. They have pretty good sensitivity,
I've been wondering if we should say "very high" sensitivty. The
Shure WL-183 is spec'd at 40 dBV/Pa which is on par with the
Sennheiser mkh 60 isn't it?
>
> though fairly high self noise
... but lower than any other lower-cost power in plug (PIP) mic we
know of? For example, the respected $1000/pair DPA 4060 omni
capsules have just about exactly the same self noise [23 dB(A) vs.
22.5 dB(A) for the WL-183's]. The sensitivity of the DPA's is much
lower at 20 mV/Pa so effective self noise of the WL-183's should be
considerably lower. In the field reports have said that the dpa's
seem to out-perform their specs somehow, but the 183's are very
respectable I would say. The 4060's are also harder to modify for PIP.
When "what mic to buy" questions specify application, polar pattern
and whether for "PIP" or phantom, it helps a lot. Rob D.
>for nature recording.
>
>I believe most are using the WL's, and powering off the plug in power of
>consumer MD. Even though the MX 183 has a slightly lower self noise
>rating. The MX being designed for phantom power is a problem for folks
>without that. I don't see why you would not use the entire kit on the MX
>183, as it provides a balanced XLR connection.
>
>If you search on Google, there are quite a few dealers pop up. Though I
>don't know how many will ship to Australia. They also turn up on Ebay.
>
>Walt
>
>
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Rob Danielson
Film Department
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
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