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Re: Re: for all you high end surround heads out there

Subject: Re: Re: for all you high end surround heads out there
From: Lang Elliott <>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:47:38 -0400
Remember that in a theatre people sit all over place, often right under the
surround speakers. And note that the surround speakers often occur in rows
on each side of the theatre (in other words, there may be many rear rights
and rear lefts, all playing the same thing).

Since there is no way one can produce a "sweet spot" large enough to contai=
n
the whole audience, it is better to deal with movies the way they currently
deal with it . . . to provide a sense of spaciousness through clever use of
the surround channels. The object is not to provide accurate imaging of
sounds all the way around. That is something we may desire and something
that would be relevant for museums and nature centers, and for possible hom=
e
listening. Movie mixers occasionally put discrete signals in the surrounds,
but every listener's experience of where that sound comes from is then
basically unique, depending on where that person sits in relation to the
surround speakers.

Lang

Bernie,
The movie folks seem so visually oriented don't they?  If they were to
really immerse the audience in a sound habitat the movie would come
alive in ways they don't even imagine.  The more senses fully engaged,
the more the fantasy comes alive.  Imagine surround aroma imaging!  That
might be a bit into the future but they could upgrade their sounds in a
minute by accessing this great bunch of nature recordists.
Kevin Colver

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>I really feel that many of the movie production people have missed
>the boat on surround sound and with their camera based thinking
>always want the recorded sound in front of the source.  The results
>can be heard by renting out most any film done with surround right
>now.  The rears get pushed back to being a mere sound reinforcement
>and seldom do you hear it used for an immersion.  All it accomplishes
>is having the wife come into the room when the effects come in and
>yell turn down the volume. This is where we can guide them and why I
>didn't bother with the center channel for now.
>

Maybe, Rich. But what the movie folks who work in sound (like the
fellas and gals at Skywalker Sound such as Randy Thom) instinctively
know is that we tend to hear what we're looking at. It's axiomatic in
their work and pretty much in Western culture.

Bernie




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