I will second this too Walt, it is not my cup of tea to be involved with
"plastic sounds" there are some threads that I do not get involved in, like
the "Atrac has no respect" one that went on for ever! I would hate emulators
swamping the group with their theories too! Just my opinion also.
Martyn
Martyn Stewart
Bird and Animal Sounds Digitally Recorded at:
http://www.naturesound.org
N47.65543 W121.98428
Redmond. Washington. USA
Make every Garden a wildlife Habitat!
The Spring is cum
The grass is riz
I wonder where the birdies is?
The birdies on the wing!
Nah, that's absoid
D' wing is on d' boid!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Knapp
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:18 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] emulating birdsong with a synthesiser
design program
From: "serge masse" <>
>
> Walter,
> I agree with you.
>
> Let me be more clear on the note that I was trying to reach: this
> group should not consider *emulating* (i.e., sound synthesis) as apart
> from *recording* but as a natural extension of *recording* and
> therefore this group should be more inclusive with *emulators* because
> they also are *recorders* or are completely dependent on *recorders*.
>
> There should be no different group for *recorders* and *emulators*. We
> should all be in the same group: animal/nature sounds enthousiasts.
A while back there was a spin off from this group of folks who realized
they were into more than just nature recording, and it's still quite
active. That's phonography, they do compositions, modified nature
recordings, mixes of nature recordings and man made sound and so forth.
They would be a more appropriate place for emulators. I belong to that
group, and it's certainly populated with recordists too.
If you are into the formal bioacoustic uses of emulation, the group to
get into is probably Bioacoustics-L. They are not a yahoo group but
connected with cornell, you can get in from this link:
http://asa.aip.org/ani_bioac/ABbioList.html
They can at least put you in touch with other bioacoustic specialists
who might be working on this. As much as nature recordists might
resemble a scientific group and contains many members who are scientists
of one sort or another, it's not a scientific group.
> I have read more than one message on this group that implied or stated
> plainly that *emulators* should post somewhere else, and I disagree
> with this. Emulators need recorders and recorders should collaborate
> with emulators.
There is no reason whatsoever for recorders to be involved with
emulation at all. So, it's more a one way thing. If emulators want to
learn nature recording that's certainly appropriate.
Many things are connected to nature recording in some way, yet we don't
bring them into nature recordists often if at all. Being connected is
not sufficient reason. Nature recording in itself is a challenging
enough subject to keep the group very active and occupied. Adding in
another subject area would increase the number of posts if it attracted
anyone, making more that recordists would have to deal with one way or
another. And it's clearly a sideline to real nature recording, if that.
That is my own opinion, not up to me what is included in the group
discussions.
Walt
"Microphones are not ears,
Loudspeakers are not birds,
A listening room is not nature."
Klas Strandberg
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