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Re: New (to me) White-crowned Sparrow dialect

Subject: Re: New (to me) White-crowned Sparrow dialect
From: Walter Knapp <>
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:28:06 -0400
Greg Winterflood wrote:

> --- In  Doug Von Gausig <> 
> wrote:
> 
> Don
> 
> Somewhere in this thread you mentioned that you were recording the 
> sparrows directly to your HardDrive.
> 
> I tried that today but only ended up with a heap of electrical 
> noise.  I have an ASUS L1400 Laptop with enough grunt to handle the 
> task so took it into the field (ie my backyard) and plugged the 
> Audio-Technica shotgun - via an XLR to 3.5mm mono input jack - into 
> the PC. 
> 
> Despite running the PC on batteries (to avoid our 50Hz 240V AC power 
> supply hum) all I got was electrical noise on the recording.   
> 
> My guess is that the RF form the PC is sliming its way into the mike 
> cable; but I'm not sure.  
> 
> I understand that the XLR is balanced input and that converting it 
> to a mono 3.5mm jack might cause problems but was wondering what 
> your set-up is?
> 
> Have PC - will not need tape or MD - Greg.
> AS,NT,Oz

A laptop makes a very awkward field recorder. And a darned expensive 
one. Usually you have to get into a outboard mic pre as a minimum. And 
should not attempt to move around while recording. Don't dump your field 
recorder. I have several laptops around here, still need a field 
recorder. I've used laptops in the field, though not for recording. In 
my case I left tape over 7 years ago and use MD.

Hard to tell at a distance the cause of your immediate problem. I doubt 
the problem is the conversion of balanced to unbalanced. Unless it's 
wired wrong. Signal hot (pin 2 of the XLR) goes to the tip of the plug, 
Signal cold (pin 3 of the XLR) goes to sleeve. It may or may not be ok 
to connect shield (pin 1 of the XLR) to the sleeve too. You might also 
run into problems if your laptop has a stereo input and you are plugging 
in mono. In that case use a stereo plug and send signal hot to both tip 
and ring. My guess is you are going to need a proper mic pre.

Walt






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