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Re: West Nile & Crows

Subject: Re: West Nile & Crows
From: "Rich Peet" <>
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 02:59:18 -0000
Here is the federal species list of birds examined dead with West 

Not all of these species are like the Crow that has a 100% mortality 
once infected.

It is just to soon to tell what is in store for us.

--- In  "Martyn Stewart" 
<> wrote:
> This is the kind of thing I wish authorities in the areas  would 
> us all a clue as to what we are loosing, I had not heard of Raptors,
> Owls dying off because of West Nile. As I said, here in Seattle they
> only test for Corvid's and Jays, maybe because they think the 
> you finding one of these is greater than a bird of prey?
> Martyn 
> Naturesound.Org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Danielson  
> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 6:35 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: West Nile & Crows
> >Rich Peet wrote:
> >>  In my area, MN. West Nile is very area specific.  It hits
> >>  neighborhoods one at a time.  From first symptoms seen to death 
> >>  crows appears to be about 3 days.  They don't even seem to care
> about
> >>  testing birds here any more as it is here to stay.  Lost about 
> of
> >>  the crows last fall, to soon to tell about this year.  GH Owl 
> >>  appears to be much higher but I know of no stats and that is 
just my
> >>  observations.
> >>
> >>  We have an under reaction here rather than an over reaction.  
> >>  media reports about birds, people, and horses.  No mention that 
> >>  large hog operations are also symptomatic.  But that would mean 
> >>  would have to talk about the human food supply being infected.  
> no
> >>  one talks about it. Except a few of us on the edge.
> >
> >It's also being used here as a reason for draining wetlands.
> >
> >I've not seen any crows in trouble, and we have lots around. I have
> >noticed many less songbirds since the spraying started. And I'm 6 
> >from the nearest town that's spraying.
> >
> >I'm sure the loss of songbirds will be pointed out as ones that 
> >from West Nile. If anyone notices at all, that is. No testing 
means you
> >do not know what killed the birds. In the few times testing has 
> >done around here, West Nile itself was exceedingly scarce.
> >
> >Walt
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> Then you probably don't have the virus in your area yet.  West nile 
> was documented here in milwaukeelast summer and in many spots 
> Wisconsin. Its very obvious. many dead birds. song birds too. Rich 
> right about the owls. Wis DNR confirrmed many raptors were killed. 
> Rob D.
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