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RE: Re: West Nile & Crows

Subject: RE: Re: West Nile & Crows
From: "Martyn Stewart" <>
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:25:32 -0700
50% Pete, that's huge! Its also worrying that hunting crows also has no
limit, only city crows here are protected because of the city limits
otherwise its bang on site, its about time laws were put in to protect
EVERYTHING that is susceptible to things like this.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Peet  
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 2:27 PM
Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: West Nile & Crows
In my area, MN. West Nile is very area specific.  It hits 
neighborhoods one at a time.  From first symptoms seen to death in 
crows appears to be about 3 days.  They don't even seem to care about 
testing birds here any more as it is here to stay.  Lost about 50% of 
the crows last fall, to soon to tell about this year.  GH Owl kill 
appears to be much higher but I know of no stats and that is just my 

We have an under reaction here rather than an over reaction.  The 
media reports about birds, people, and horses.  No mention that the 
large hog operations are also symptomatic.  But that would mean you 
would have to talk about the human food supply being infected.  So no 
one talks about it. Except a few of us on the edge.

Rich Peet

--- In  Walter Knapp <> 
> Rob Danielson wrote:
> > Hi Martyn--
> > We had behaviors like you describe in Milwaukee last summer. I 
saw a 
> > sick Jay literally fall off of a porch onto the walk.There were 
> > crows, even a few hermit thrushes, in the street. Through the 
> > and winter, there were noticeably fewer numbers of crows.  But 
> > summer, the crow population seems strong again. It could be the 
> > numbers are up and down in different locations. Rob D.
> Around here they have reinstituted running around in trucks 
> spraying whole towns. This, when it was done with ddt, resulted in 
> massive bird kills. And Rachel Carlson's book "Silent Spring"
> I don't think you have to look for west nile, look for the paranoid 
> folks spraying everything for it. Time for another book...
> Walt

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