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Subject: RE: using playback
From: "Barb Beck" <>
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:33:42 -0600
Good point.  When used with care it can be a great tool.
Barb

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Minns 
Sent: July 2, 2003 4:02 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists]using playback

Barb,

A quick reply as I am off to northeast Brazil tomorrow for three weeks.

I try to record the natural song wherever possible and use playback mainly
to attract a bird that is vocalising so I can see and identify it. Remember
that in tropical forests there are a lot of species and many of these are
very little known. For some species there are no commercially available
recordings and without playback I would end up with a lot of unidentified
vocalisations.

Jeremy


At 12:25 02/07/03 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi Jeremy and Joseph,
>I think you are frequently going to be disappointed with the vocalizations
>you get using playback to get a bird to vocalize.  I have used it from time
>to time particularly with a bird that I do not have a recording of for my
>students or one that is nearly impossible for me to get to (Western
>Flycatchers who live on steep sides of canyons above rushing water where it
>makes recording difficult to say the least - particularly for a gimpy old
>lady)  Often the bird gives a very very agitated song - one you do not even
>hear as another male encroaches its teritory.  Possibly because we are so
>loud and maybe in the middle of his area.  Anyway it produces very
unnatural
>sounding songs at least to these old ears.
>
>What also disturbs me is the way these very agitated birds react.  They
>expose themselves much more than they normally do with obvious consequences
>if there is a predator around and it also takes them away from what they
>should be doing - eating and raising a family. Just use it with care for
the
>bird and for your recordings.  One of my early recording trips I played an
>oven bird in an area where I knew one had been singing to get a recording.
>It was late in the nesting season and the bird was not singing  The bird
>shot out of the woods immediately and perched above us on a stick singing
>very loudly and fast.  The worst thing is that after recording it we left
>and came back by the area about 15 minutes later - the bird was still
>exposed and singing.  Really made me stop and think about what we had done.
>The recording although loud was not a natural sounding song.
>
>Barb Beck
>Edmonton AB Canada
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jctbirder 
>Sent: July 2, 2003 11:47 AM
>To: 
>Subject: [Nature Recordists] Utterly Newbie Query re: Speaker for MiniDisc
>
>I've just received my Sony MZ-NF810 and am eager to take it into the
>field for recording and playback of bird vocalizations.  I would like
>to acquire a small speaker that I could somehow attach to my belt for
>playback, and would greatly appreciate advice on both speaker
>recommendations and how to effectively carry the speaker in the
>field...Thanks!
>Joseph Thompson
>Los Angeles
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