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Subject: Re: Soundscapes & Yuba Pass
From: "Rich Peet" <>
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 21:17:43 -0000
I am doing two volunteer herp survey routes this year for MN and the 
rules are that I can't start before 1/2 hour past sunset and must be 
done by 1:00 a.m.  On one of my routes I had 0 found at any of the 
ten sites during the early spring run but during the day when I was 
locating the observation points there was a Northern Leopard Frog 
calling from two points.  Not much of a route as you would guess as 
it is now all drain tile to ditch in corporate ag land.  The other 
route is new so I got to pick the points and am much more happy with 
it having found multiple points with out of territory frogs.  Please 
don't tell the frogs as they don't know that.

Rich Peet

--- In  Walter Knapp <> 
> Rich Peet wrote:
> >>One of my comments I got about my survey recordings was how I was 
> >>getting rare recordings of birds, because the bird people quit at 
> >>sunset. The distribution of night calling birds is much less well 
> > 
> > known 
> > 
> >>than daytime callers. I don't specifically record birds, though 
> >>doing a little more since finding that out.
> >>
> >>Walt
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > Some of us are paying attention to the nite.
> I know that there are those that do pay attention to the night.
> The comment I got was from the person managing the local bird 
> equivalent to the herp survey I play with. They are probably right 
> the far majority of birdwatchers don't do night, so the night birds 
> underrepresented in surveys.
> It's not just birds, a lot of herp folks quit at night too. I know 
> several contract surveys for the military bases in the area where 
> group doing the survey only worked from 9-5. When I've been out on 
> forays with groups it's hard to get them to go more than a hour or 
> after dark at best. Some frogs don't even get going that quickly. 
> others quit early. It amounts to going most of the night to be sure.
> Walt


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