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Subject: Soundscapes & Yuba Pass
From: "Martyn Stewart" <>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:58:59 -0700
OK you lot, you have actually got this all wrong! Nuthatch sounds in
Yuba Pass? Leaves blowing in the trees? I knew you all were not
listening to what Doug was talking about last Friday night, the sounds
you heard were one of an escaped Lyrebird, I told you these buggers were
clever! It was actually a Lyrebird that was sitting in my place for 3
I think Rudy, Bernie, Doug and Walt has said it all in these few e-mails
and I certainly endorse what Doug said about not thinking we are
superior! the beauty about what we all do and love is as important as
the next guy, we are all part of a very important chain and that is the
chain of nature recording, whether you ID a bird, insect, frog or a leaf
on a tree, its the very thing that gets us out there and do what we do.
What I do try to do, is log down everything I hear and see, if its an
insect, I want to ID it, if its a frog or a toad, I'm too curious to not
know, and Rudy, I have a degree in Horticulture & botany for which is my
trade so I had BETTER know what bloody trees and flowers are out there
or I get a kick in the @$#@ from my Daughter if I don't!!!
 Cliff, make sure you keep those street recordings because you never
know, I knew a guy who used to record a bloke called John Lennon in
Liverpool, pre Beatles, he sold his recordings for a fair price for
obvious reasons.
I certainly will be back next year or the next AGHHHHH! and I challenge
Walt to get there too :)
Here is that link to the Birding software I was talking about, it really
does everything that the Lyrebird doesn't do!!!!!!!!
te=3Dnaturesound> &affiliate=3Dnaturesound


-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Von Gausig 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Doug rocks at NSS

At 03:11 PM 6/26/2003, Walter Knapp wrote:
>And before any of the bird recordists get to uppity, just how many
>frogcalls can you identify to species, or insects, or mammals? I've
>out with bird recordists, where I would hear the frogs, they would hear
>the birds, and it was real work for us to hear each other's favorite
>animal. Let alone identify them.

Boy, that's for sure! I try to learn any frog I hear or record, and I'm
getting better at it, but not nearly as good as I am with birds. Frogs
often nocturnal, and that makes learning them a bit more difficult. They

also tend to "sing" at very specific times and in specific conditions.
Luckily there are far fewer frog species out there than birds!

Web sites like Walter's for frogs and mine for birds are among the best
ways we have for disseminating species identifications. I have offered
help recordists ID sounds, and I know that Walter will do the same.

Someday we'll devise the perfect heuristic "key" for sounds, but until
then, we just have to learn a bit more and slowly get more proficient.

Speaking of that key, does anyone want to try to create it? It's not
but could be very, very helpful, especially for beginners.

Doug Von Gausig
Clarkdale, Arizona, USA
Nature Recordists e-mail group

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