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Well now that we can travel a little further afield perhaps it’s time to put our greatest asset, our grey matter, behind the viewfinder and just capture some good photos and enjoy the process. Photography is for me one of the most joyous activities.
Regards
Richard
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On 17 Oct 2021, at 10:31 pm, David Rees via Canberrabirds <> wrote:
Yes, I am more than aware that it is time on the job that makes the difference. I certainly do not use gear that costs 20K nor can I afford it. The question remains, how do you know that the individuals have bought the gear secondhand, or is it the more
likely case that it is the gear said individuals have used for a very long time and have got very good with it. Camera bodies are one thing, they change over frequently, glassware much less so. as we know, camera bodies are the cheap bit, and therefore much
less than half the story.
David
On 17/10/2021 7:26 pm, Rory Read wrote:
David
Some of the shortlisted images were taken with gear that cannot be purchased new in 2021, such as the Canon 5diii, Canon 450d (released in 2008 and can be purchased for $150), Nikon d800, et cetera.
It is not disingenuous to use secondhand prices in this discussion because many of the options don't have a new price, and much of the gear used will have been purchased secondhand.
Many of the images shortlisted were taken with gear that would cost you much less that 20k to purchase new. The competition is very accessible and skill and time invested are far bigger factors
than gear price.
Lachlan
On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 17:11, David Rees via Canberrabirds <> wrote:
Bit disingenuous that, For fair comparison I have used new prices, yes, sure you can buy second hand gear, you can buy second hand gear at any price level, a $1000 camera for $350 sort of thing. My comment still applies as a rational standard of value.
David
On 16/10/2021 1:58 pm, Con wrote:
Martin
IMO, $20k is not necessary. Most of the shortlisted Birdlife images could have been captured by second hand equipment costing less than two thirds of new. Quite a few cameras/lens combos get purchased and then spend most of their lives in a cupboard. The
very latest bells and whistles might lead to a higher success rate per capture, and might confer some advantage in specific conditions (say birds in flight, or rainforest birds in dull light), but most of the Birdlife images could well have been captured with
equipment with a market value of well less than $10,000. I know several of the photographers who are shortlisted and the main answers to their success are time in the field at all hours of the day and night, becoming adept at post processing, and seeking constant
improvement.
kind regards
Con
On 10/16/2021 1:35 PM, Martin Butterfield via Canberrabirds wrote:
I think at the first COG Meeting I attended - mid 1983 - Graeme Chapman presented hints on taking bird photos, illustrated with some of his best images. From memory the cost of the kit he put up was something tripod $1000, camera body $3000 and telephoto
lens $3000. Allowing for inflation (about 3.5 x ) that would cost $25,000 these days. So $20k is good value!
On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 11:02, David Rees via Canberrabirds <> wrote:
Thanks for that, some glorious images, however from inspection, most of them needed about $20K plus worth of gear to take.
On 15/10/2021 7:00 pm, tlawson wrote:
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