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Newline

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Subject: Newline
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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:53:41 +1100
Well, come on COG, how about buying the paddock as COG's first bird reserve? ;)

-----Original message-----
From: "Chris Davey" 
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:42:47 +1100
To: "'Geoffrey Dabb'"  "'Canberrabirds List'" 

Subject: Newline

> Geoffrey,
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> Everything you say is correct concerning Newline except that the land
> encompassing most of the COG survey sites is Federal land and under the
> Department of Defence.  The quarry is under ACT Government control.  I
> have been contacted by the owner of 'Tableland Explosives' and been told
> that the land is up for sale and this has been confirmed by other
> interested parties.  This has naturally set off warning signals and I am
> now in the process of enquiring from TAMS what they know about this.
> The grape-vine tells me that the Airport is not interested in buying the
> land but we obviously need to keep a close eye on the situation.
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> Your ever vigilant committee,
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> Chris  
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoffrey Dabb  
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2008 7:17 PM
> To: 'Canberrabirds List'
> Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Newline
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> Gee  =   Less than 2 yrs I think:  there must have been quite a turnover
> in membership. This ranks #4 under 'recurrent topics' on this chatline.
> [After #1 YFHE migration, #2 Abbreviations (remember the BCHE in the NLP
> last Winter) and #3 Currawong trends.]  I don't think it has much to do
> with COG officialdom.  My information might be outdated, but I
> understand the position to be as follows.
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> The paddock is government land, being one of the holding paddocks for
> the now-disused Oaks Estate abattoirs.  However, it is the subject of a
> grazing licence which gives the holder the right to graze his stock
> without interference.  I believe the govt/department position is that if
> you want an assurance on right to enter you should speak to the
> licence-holder.  So far as I know, that person is amiably-disposed
> provided people act reasonably, including, for this purpose, not
> evicting sheep, stampeding lambing ewes or complaining about them being
> there. Similar considerations apply to a lot of places that the
> wandering Canberra birdwatcher 'goes onto'  ie behave sensibly, and
> where appropriate deferentially, and don't force the issue.
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> An adjoining area, the former fireworks store, is now used for storage
> of other hazardous materials and might be more sensitive.
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> I am quite happy to be corrected by a COG official. Perhaps there is a
> recent and more formal arrangement with the licence-holder.  Trouble
> with those is they can entail more explicit conditions.  gd      
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:   
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2008 5:51 PM
> To: Canberrabirds List
> Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Newline
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> I've had several people email me privately for directions to Newline, to
> which I've responded, but I'm not sure what arrangements, if any, COG
> has with the landowner about access to this property.  I have a feeling
> there was discussion about this on the list a few years ago, but I can't
> recall.  Can a COG official comment about access to this site?
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