To: "'Geoffrey Dabb'" <>, "'Canberrabirds List'" <>
Subject: Newline
From: "Chris Davey" <>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:42:37 +1100



Everything you say is correct concerning Newline except that the land encompassing most of the COG survey sites is Federal land and under the Department of Defence.  The quarry is under ACT Government control.  I have been contacted by the owner of ‘Tableland Explosives’ and been told that the land is up for sale and this has been confirmed by other interested parties.  This has naturally set off warning signals and I am now in the process of enquiring from TAMS what they know about this.  The grape-vine tells me that the Airport is not interested in buying the land but we obviously need to keep a close eye on the situation.


Your ever vigilant committee,




-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Dabb [
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2008 7:17 PM
To: 'Canberrabirds List'
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Newline


Gee  =   Less than 2 yrs I think:  there must have been quite a turnover in membership. This ranks #4 under 'recurrent topics' on this chatline.  [After #1 YFHE migration, #2 Abbreviations (remember the BCHE in the NLP last Winter) and #3 Currawong trends.]  I don't think it has much to do with COG officialdom.  My information might be outdated, but I understand the position to be as follows.


The paddock is government land, being one of the holding paddocks for the now-disused Oaks Estate abattoirs.  However, it is the subject of a grazing licence which gives the holder the right to graze his stock without interference.  I believe the govt/department position is that if you want an assurance on right to enter you should speak to the licence-holder.  So far as I know, that person is amiably-disposed provided people act reasonably, including, for this purpose, not evicting sheep, stampeding lambing ewes or complaining about them being there. Similar considerations apply to a lot of places that the wandering Canberra birdwatcher ‘goes onto’  ie behave sensibly, and where appropriate deferentially, and don’t force the issue.


An adjoining area, the former fireworks store, is now used for storage of other hazardous materials and might be more sensitive.


I am quite happy to be corrected by a COG official. Perhaps there is a recent and more formal arrangement with the licence-holder.  Trouble with those is they can entail more explicit conditions.  gd     


-----Original Message-----
From: [
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2008 5:51 PM
To: Canberrabirds List
Subject: Newline


I've had several people email me privately for directions to Newline, to which I've responded, but I'm not sure what arrangements, if any, COG has with the landowner about access to this property.  I have a feeling there was discussion about this on the list a few years ago, but I can't recall.  Can a COG official comment about access to this site?




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