Range of Weebill

To: Mike Carter <>, 'Patrick Scully' <>
Subject: Range of Weebill
From: martin cachard <>
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:58:22 +0000
hi Patrick, Mike, and everyone else too...

I'd be plumping for either, as Mike has said, a Yellow-billed Thornbill or 
White-browed Scrub-wren.

if your aunt-in law is adamant about the white eye, and because she isn't 
really a birder as well, and in all likelihood she didn't see the bird/s with 
binoculars, then these 2 species would be the most likely at Balnarring...


martin cachard

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daintree river, FNQ

and Trinity Beach, Cairns, FNQ

From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of Mike 
Carter <>
Sent: Sunday, 15 April 2018 8:29 PM
To: 'Patrick Scully'
Cc: 'Andrew Silcocks'; 
Subject: Range of Weebill

Hi Patrick, Buff-rumped Thornbill is even more unlikely; that 2006 publication 
that I mentioned lists that species as extinct on the Peninsula. Yellow-rumped 
Thornbill is a possibility but is distinctive so unlikely to be confused and 
has a patchy distribution. White-browed Scrubwren has a prominent white eye and 
would be plundered by Grey Butcherbirds which have become more common in 
built-up areas in the last three decades.

Mike Carter, 03 5977 1262

181/160 Mornington-Tyabb Road

Mornington, VIC 3931, Australia

From: Patrick Scully 
Sent: 15 April 2018 5:37 PM
To: Mike Carter
Cc: ; Andrew Silcocks
Subject: Range of Weebill

Hi All,

And thanks Mike.  I had thought that if anyone knew about Weebill on the 
Mornington Peninsula, who would know better than yourself.  My wife's aunt is 
the Anglican Vicar at Balnarring and said that when she moved there in 2007, 
that she had Weebill in the garden but then a family of Butcher Birds moved in 
and that was the end of them. She has a field guide but is not what I would 
call a birder, in the sense of seeking out birds and I'm not sure that she even 
owns any binoculars.  When I suggested that they may have been Thornbills, and 
described Weebill as having a white eye, she mentioned seeing the white eye.  
After reading your email, I wonder if she may have been seeing Buff-rumped 

Would you know if they are more common on the Mornington Peninsula Mike?

All the best,

Patrick Scully

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 1:23 PM, Mike Carter <> wrote:

Regarding the status of Weebill on the Mornington Peninsula in my time here 
since 1964 it has never been common or widespread. Several decades ago I saw 
them around Devils Bend Reservoir but I don't think they are there now. I also 
seem to recall seeing the species at least once at the Langwarrin Reserve. The 
booklet 'Where to Find Birds around Frankston and the Mornington Peninsula' 
edited by Larry Wakefield published by the Mornington Peninsula Branch of the 
Bird Observers Club in 2006 listed it as a vagrant. There is only one record 
for the Edithvale - Seaford Wetlands; a bird photographed at Seaford within the 
last 5 years by Andrew Silcocks. We have never seen it at the Eastern Treatment 
Plant but there is little suitable habitat for it there. I am not particularly 
familiar with the Balnarring region but would be surprised if it was regular 

Mike Carter, 03 5977 1262
181/160 Mornington-Tyabb Road
Mornington, VIC 3931, Australia

-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of 
Patrick Scully
Sent: 14 April 2018 7:49 PM
Subject: Range of Weebill

Hi All,
I posted a photo that Kevin Bartram took at Kamarooka of a Weebill  on my
Facebook page and my wife’s aunt made a comment that she used to have them
in her garden at Balnarring, on the Mornington Peninsula. I know that the
Weebill is found over pretty much all of mainland Australia. Would anyone
know if they can be seen on the Mornington Peninsula? The other thing I’m
wondering about is the exact place that the Brevirostris race finishes and
the lovely more yellow Flavescens race starts? I’ve looked at both the
Morcombe app and Pizzey app maps and to me it is a little unclear.

Ken Haines and I had an enjoyable time last September seeing Flavescens at
Mica Creek, Mt Isa.
Happy birding,
Patrick Scully

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