" Things cannot get lost there".
The internet is littered with websites that have vanished - the owners may
have good intentions but things change and who can predict what will happen
to this site in 10 or 20 years time? Look for example at
I make use of websites to store backups of various things, but they are
only ever a secondary backup to my on-site backups.
On 22 March 2018 at 12:02, Joshua Bergmark <>
> Dear all,
> I won't go in to the Facebook debate, but I want to bring the website
> cloudbirders.com to the attention of everyone.
> Cloudbirders has ultimately become the number one source of archived
> birding information in the world, and people would do well to upload trip
> reports to the website. Things cannot get lost there. It is now well-used
> over most of the planet by a large proportion of world birders, however
> Australian reports are generally lacking. It is essentially equivalent to a
> worldwide BA archive of trip reports.
> I'd love to see more people using it, especially those who are worried that
> the good old days of comprehensive trip reports are gone. Have a look at
> the website and you'll see this is far from the truth.
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 at 10:21, Jason Polak <> wrote:
> > Dear All,
> > I'd like to share that I remember when Facebook first came out as a
> > company to the general public (as opposed to only being available to
> > certain universities).
> > At the time I was an undergraduate. Curious I checked it out, and read
> > didn't respect privacy, so I never signed up. To this day I've refused
> > to use their services.
> > With Facebook, you are the product. Persona data misuse is not confined
> > to the most recent scandal with Cambridge Analytica/Trump. Your data is
> > constantly misused and sold. Privacy settings frequently change randomly
> > and with little notice.
> > Also, if you use Firefox I recommend Ghostery and Privacy Badger to
> > block Facebook trackers on other websites from tracking you. And they do
> > track you, even when you're not signed in.
> > Jason
> > On 2018-03-21 09:07 AM, Steve Clark wrote:
> > > G'day all
> > >
> > > Is it time the managers of the various Facebook birding groups sought
> > > alternatives? I've never been comfortable with a Facebook account and
> > only
> > > have one because of the need to be in touch via the birding groups.
> > > the recent scandal indicating high-level personal data misuse and
> > targeted
> > > fake news I think Facebook is really on the nose.
> > >
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