One of the advantages of Facebook over email is actually that it's hard to find
things. It means the arguments that used to rage here on and off for years end
up fizzling out. Add the ability to delete entire threads, and moderators can
cut arguments off at will.
A lot of the inflammatory discussions have moved to Facebook, where they arise
and are killed off before they do much damage. Anyone noticed it's been a lot
calmer here the last couple of years? It's not just because there's less
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus On Behalf
> Of Bill Stent
> Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2018 7:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Facebook Groups for birding - time for a rethink?
> I can only say that I agree.
> Birding-Aus the mailing list is good (IMHO), as it archives, meaning that you
> can find a post from ages ago using a search, and while the archive search
> may not be terribly useful, it's viewable by Google so you can use that
> instead - and it works. As others have pointed out, finding a post on the
> Facebook site from last month, let along five years ago is near impossible.
> Photos also work - patchily - on the mailing list, depending on your operating
> system, although sound files don't work.
> I think that the main disadvantage about the mailing list is that it isn't
> Facebook, which is what people use.
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:13 PM, Peter Shute <>
> > Over the years we’ve discussed alternatives to this mailing list here
> > several
> times. Facebook and birdforum were suggested, but people wanted to stick
> with email. It seemed like any kind of login was too hard.
> > Then smart phones arrived, people drifted into Facebook for other
> reasons, then suddenly it was the in thing for birding. It may be insecure,
> fragmented, unsearchable and chaotic, but the numbers participating dwarf
> the membership of this list. Good luck shifting them somewhere better.
> > To be fair, if one only used Facebook for bird stuff, there are limited
> opportunities for personal data misuse. I was going to say the same about
> fake news, but we had some spectacular examples of it early on.
> > Peter Shute
> > Sent from my iPad
> >> On 21 Mar 2018, at 9:10 am, Steve Clark <>
> >> G'day all
> >> Is it time the managers of the various Facebook birding groups sought
> >> alternatives? I've never been comfortable with a Facebook account
> >> and only have one because of the need to be in touch via the birding
> >> groups. With the recent scandal indicating high-level personal data
> >> misuse and targeted fake news I think Facebook is really on the nose.
> >> Maybe options such as www.simplybirding.com or www.birdforum.net
> >> worth considering.
> >> Cheers
> >> Steve Clark
> >> Hamilton, Vic
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