Musk Lorikeets in Sydney and species diversity

To: Greg and Val Clancy <>
Subject: Musk Lorikeets in Sydney and species diversity
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 11:13:27 +0000
I haven't come across the term "Bassian" before, except in the species Bassian 
Thrush. Google tells me it's the name of an ecoregion. Can anyone tell me where 
its boundaries are?

Peter Shute

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> On 18 Dec. 2016, at 2:50 pm, Greg and Val Clancy <> wrote:
> The situation with the Musk Lorikeet in the Clarence Valley, north coast
> NSW, is also interesting.  When I moved to the area in the late 1970s
> sightings of the Musk Lorikeet were almost non-existent.  They would not be
> recorded for many years then they would arrive in large numbers, sometimes
> staying for a couple of years and then suddenly disappear.  I was of the
> impression that they were the classic nomad of the Australian bush moving to
> where food resources were and then moving on again when they declined or
> when the attraction was greater elsewhere.  The species seems to be more
> regularly recorded at higher altitudes in the north-east and as such may be
> just reflecting the preference of a Bassian species.  Many Bassian species
> only occur at higher altitudes in the north-east of the state as the humid
> lowlands don't suit them.
> Regards
> Greg
> Dr Greg. P. Clancy
> Ecologist and Birding-wildlife Guide
> | PO Box 63 Coutts Crossing NSW 2460
> | 02 6649 3153 | 0429 601 960
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Shute
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 6:09 AM
> To: Andy Burton
> Cc: Birding Aus ; Chris Lloyd
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Musk Lorikeets in Sydney and species diversity
> This sounds like good news for Musk Lorikeets, but I'm wondering if the
> numbers visiting increasingly attractive Sydney suburbs might also be driven
> by deforestation elsewhere. That seems to be the situation with flying
> foxes.
> Peter Shute
> Sent from my iPad
>> On 17 Dec. 2016, at 5:13 pm, Andy Burton <> wrote:
>> Haha, I’ve been lurking Chris, and involved in other projects.
>> Re the change in vegetation, particularly canopy:
>> In the Lane Cove, Roseville, Lindfield, Killara area, especially around
>> Fiddens Wharf Road, the timber getters had moved in during 1804 and had
>> taken all the timber that they wanted by 1819. After this there were
>> various horticultural and animal husbandry projects set up by individuals.
>> Post WW2, the ridges were built on and ridgetop birds e.g..,
>> White-throated Gerygone, disappeared. Where I live, on the ridge
>> overlooking the short Blue Gum Creek tributary of the Lane Cove River,
>> there were three small dairies and a rifle range alongside the creek. It
>> is still possible to see where the rifle range existed until it was
>> decommissioned in 1965. At the risk of stating the bleedin' obvious it is
>> not possible to have a rifle range in the middle of a forest, and so it
>> was not until 1965 that eucalyptus regrowth commenced. That forest is now
>> dense and quite mature, as are the areas where the dairies (and their
>> cattle) were. At about the same time many of the tributaries of the
>> Willoughby, North Sydney, southern Kuingai and Ryde municipalities were
>> reserved allowing for the regeneration of vegetation along these narrow
>> reserves of the valley bottoms. At about the same time a local nursery
>> must have marketed Flooded Gums Eucalyptus grandis to the local populace
>> and so in places, that species has joined the regenerating Blackbutts and
>> Blue create a new canopy. It is my belief that this is what has
>> recently attracted Musk Lorikeets to the area and for a few years I have
>> predicted that the species will become a common breeding resident
>> throughout most of northern Sydney.
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