Musk Lorikeets in Sydney and species diversity

To: Peter Shute <>, Andy Burton <>
Subject: Musk Lorikeets in Sydney and species diversity
From: Greg and Val Clancy <>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 03:48:35 +0000
The situation with the Musk Lorikeet in the Clarence Valley, north coast 
NSW, is also interesting.  When I moved to the area in the late 1970s 
sightings of the Musk Lorikeet were almost non-existent.  They would not be 
recorded for many years then they would arrive in large numbers, sometimes 
staying for a couple of years and then suddenly disappear.  I was of the 
impression that they were the classic nomad of the Australian bush moving to 
where food resources were and then moving on again when they declined or 
when the attraction was greater elsewhere.  The species seems to be more 
regularly recorded at higher altitudes in the north-east and as such may be 
just reflecting the preference of a Bassian species.  Many Bassian species 
only occur at higher altitudes in the north-east of the state as the humid 
lowlands don't suit them.


Dr Greg. P. Clancy
Ecologist and Birding-wildlife Guide
| PO Box 63 Coutts Crossing NSW 2460
| 02 6649 3153 | 0429 601 960

-----Original Message----- 
From: Peter Shute
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 6:09 AM
To: Andy Burton
Cc: Birding Aus ; Chris Lloyd
Subject: Musk Lorikeets in Sydney and species diversity

This sounds like good news for Musk Lorikeets, but I'm wondering if the 
numbers visiting increasingly attractive Sydney suburbs might also be driven 
by deforestation elsewhere. That seems to be the situation with flying 

Peter Shute

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> On 17 Dec. 2016, at 5:13 pm, Andy Burton <> wrote:
> Haha, I’ve been lurking Chris, and involved in other projects.
> Re the change in vegetation, particularly canopy:
> In the Lane Cove, Roseville, Lindfield, Killara area, especially around 
> Fiddens Wharf Road, the timber getters had moved in during 1804 and had 
> taken all the timber that they wanted by 1819. After this there were 
> various horticultural and animal husbandry projects set up by individuals. 
> Post WW2, the ridges were built on and ridgetop birds e.g.., 
> White-throated Gerygone, disappeared. Where I live, on the ridge 
> overlooking the short Blue Gum Creek tributary of the Lane Cove River, 
> there were three small dairies and a rifle range alongside the creek. It 
> is still possible to see where the rifle range existed until it was 
> decommissioned in 1965. At the risk of stating the bleedin' obvious it is 
> not possible to have a rifle range in the middle of a forest, and so it 
> was not until 1965 that eucalyptus regrowth commenced. That forest is now 
> dense and quite mature, as are the areas where the dairies (and their 
> cattle) were. At about the same time many of the tributaries of the 
> Willoughby, North Sydney, southern Kuingai and Ryde municipalities were 
> reserved allowing for the regeneration of vegetation along these narrow 
> reserves of the valley bottoms. At about the same time a local nursery 
> must have marketed Flooded Gums Eucalyptus grandis to the local populace 
> and so in places, that species has joined the regenerating Blackbutts and 
> Blue create a new canopy. It is my belief that this is what has 
> recently attracted Musk Lorikeets to the area and for a few years I have 
> predicted that the species will become a common breeding resident 
> throughout most of northern Sydney.

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