……………not forgetting the huge and continuing development across the Cumberland
Plain in western Sydney, resulting in local extinction of species in our
lifetimes.
Andy
> On 18 Dec 2016, at 12:02 pm, Chris Lloyd <> wrote:
>
> If I was a betting man, that's where my money might be. The combination of
> Chris and Andy's greening of the city over the last 50+ years and the
> concomitant reduction in forestry cover on the slopes (particularly western)
> could be the reason. Somewhat ironic but not for long as LGAs move to shift
> the FF 'menace' such was the case in Sutherland and that pinnacle of
> Australian indigenous flora - the RBG.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Shute
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 6:10 AM
> To: Andy Burton <>
> Cc: Chris Lloyd <>; Birding Aus
> <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Musk Lorikeets in Sydney and species diversity
>
> This sounds like good news for Musk Lorikeets, but I'm wondering if the
> numbers visiting increasingly attractive Sydney suburbs might also be driven
> by deforestation elsewhere. That seems to be the situation with flying foxes.
>
> Peter Shute
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 17 Dec. 2016, at 5:13 pm, Andy Burton <> wrote:
>>
>> Haha, I’ve been lurking Chris, and involved in other projects.
>>
>> Re the change in vegetation, particularly canopy:
>>
>> In the Lane Cove, Roseville, Lindfield, Killara area, especially around
>> Fiddens Wharf Road, the timber getters had moved in during 1804 and had
>> taken all the timber that they wanted by 1819. After this there were various
>> horticultural and animal husbandry projects set up by individuals. Post WW2,
>> the ridges were built on and ridgetop birds e.g.., White-throated Gerygone,
>> disappeared. Where I live, on the ridge overlooking the short Blue Gum Creek
>> tributary of the Lane Cove River, there were three small dairies and a rifle
>> range alongside the creek. It is still possible to see where the rifle range
>> existed until it was decommissioned in 1965. At the risk of stating the
>> bleedin' obvious it is not possible to have a rifle range in the middle of a
>> forest, and so it was not until 1965 that eucalyptus regrowth commenced.
>> That forest is now dense and quite mature, as are the areas where the
>> dairies (and their cattle) were. At about the same time many of the
>> tributaries of the Willoughby, North Sydney, southern Kuingai and Ryde
>> municipalities were reserved allowing for the regeneration of vegetation
>> along these narrow reserves of the valley bottoms. At about the same time a
>> local nursery must have marketed Flooded Gums Eucalyptus grandis to the
>> local populace and so in places, that species has joined the regenerating
>> Blackbutts and Blue Gums.to create a new canopy. It is my belief that this
>> is what has recently attracted Musk Lorikeets to the area and for a few
>> years I have predicted that the species will become a common breeding
>> resident throughout most of northern Sydney.
>>
>> Andy
>
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