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Ticks & eBird

To: Roger Giller <>
Subject: Ticks & eBird
From: Michael Tarburton <>
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 20:03:01 +1000
G'day Roger

I use the explore data Facility for the three species that I work on.

I originally applied for the download of raw data, and eventually three or four explanatory files arrived, but no data file. I replied explaining that this was what happened, but have never heard back from them on that. I still get requests to fill in questionaires, but no explanation. I have been able to get the data from the explore data avenue, but just get frustrated by all the repetition.

Thanks for your attempt to clarify the methodology.

Cheers

Mike
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Michael Tarburton

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On 23/05/2015, at 6:26 PM, Roger Giller wrote:

Mike,

How do you obtain your data from eBird?

If you download raw data you should only get the "Group List" from shared
observations.
If people enter their own lists separately then you will get duplication, or often multiplication. This is why eBird encourages list sharing for group
outings.

Eyes skyward!
Roger.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Tarburton 
Sent: Friday, 22 May 2015 12:16 PM
To: Carl Clifford
Cc: birding-aus Aus
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Ticks & eBird

G'day Tickers & bird watchers

Carl, what makes your observation worse is that when each of the
persons on the tour then go and send those identical lists to eBird.
I get very frustrated trying to gather swift data from eBird, where I
have had up to 8 identical lists for the same place on the same day.
Sometimes they admit there were others with them sometimes they do not.

Happy birding


Mike


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Michael Tarburton

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On 11/05/2015, at 3:51 PM, Carl Clifford wrote:

I think that occurs on quite a few group tours, with the leaders
collecting the individual sightings for their records, and some of
the group just using the "master" list as their own sightings.
Guess it is a matter of conscience.

Carl Clifford


On 11 May 2015, at 1:31 pm, Denise Goodfellow
<> wrote:

Clients once told me of a fellow passenger on a pelagic trip.  As
the guide reeled off the names of the species, this fellow ticked
them off his list, without looking up!

Denise Lawungkurr  Goodfellow
PO Box 71
Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
043 8650 835

PhD candidate, Southern Cross University, Lismore, NSW.

Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia
Nominated by Earthfoot for Condé Nast’s International  Ecotourism
Award, 2004.

With every introduction of a plant or animal that goes feral this
continent becomes a little less unique, a little less Australian.
















On 11 May 2015, at 12:23 pm, Peter Shute <> wrote:

That's not as silly as it sounds, if the client did actually see
the bird but wasn't able to identify it, and was just making sure
Tim was certain of the id.

My OBP tick wouldn't be a tick if there hadn't been an expert
there to tell me it wasn't a Blue-wing. Normally I'd want to id
it myself, but I figure there aren't going to be many chances to
try again, and it's not that much different to taking a photo and
asking an expert later.

Peter Shute

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, 11 May 2015 10:45 AM
To: 
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Ticks

I remember the late Tim Fisher (of the Philippines) telling
me about a client who asked him (Tim) "Did you see that well
enough for me to tick it?"
David Robertson
Adelaide

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