Birding around Urana, NSW.

To: "'Martin Butterfield'" <>
Subject: Birding around Urana, NSW.
From: "Roger Giller" <>
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 15:28:52 +1000
I didn’t mention the Polygon tool for that vey reason Martin. It relies on the 
developer David Ellsworth <>  requesting and 
downloading the location data from eBird. It then uses the top 50 locations 
within the polygon based on number of checklists submitted. If even one of 
those locations has been subsequently edited in eBird (deleted, renamed, merged 
with another etc.) then it does crazy things along the lines of what you 


I was using it to get data for the polygons that describe the eBird filter 
regions and a couple of times asked him to update the data which he was only 
too happy to do. Another way is to identify and delete the offending location 
using a binary search on the list of locations.




From: Martin Butterfield <> 
Sent: Monday, 16 July 2018 2:49 PM
To: Roger Giller <>
Cc: Chris Lloyd <>; birding-aus NEW 
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Birding around Urana, NSW.


I was surprised that Roger's message didn't refer to the polygon tool.  This 
caused me to use the polygon tool to get a sample list for a polygon designed 
as a rectangle about 10km to a side centred on Urana.  That gave a set of 35 
hotspots including all those I knew to be around Urana.  The bottom of the list 
of hotspots said location data as at November 2017.  


Unfortunately when I completed the process by requesting a bar chart for that 
set of hotspots I only got 19 species, all in the month of November. 


I had been told in the past that this tool - developed by an individual rather 
than by eBird - referred to an old set of records.  From the reference to 
November 2017 in the list of locations, and the date range on the bar chart 
going from 1900 to 2018  I thought this had been fixed, but obviously not.


Sorry for raising people's hopes.



Martin Butterfield 


On 16 July 2018 at 13:41, Roger Giller < 
<> > wrote:

Hi Chris,

Try eBird "Explore a region". Enter Urana and you get data for the relevant
LGA. From here you can generate a Bar Chart and see the various  hotspots.
Selecting one of these allows you to get an individual printable for that
location. Unfortunately it is not possible to print a checklist for the LGA
reporting region.  When looking at the list for an individual hotspot you
can select Hotspot Map and see its location on Google Maps, and all the
others nearby. Satellite view is best.


-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus < 
<> > On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Monday, 16 July 2018 12:35 PM
To:  <> 
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Birding around Urana, NSW.

I decide to break the journey from Sydney to Bendigo in the small town of
Urana having seen what looked to be a nice caravan park there once before.
The CP was one of the most delightful I have ever visited sited, as it is,
right on the lake just outside of, but an easy walk to, town. A well
signposted and graded track goes for 4 kilometres around the lake providing
excellent vantage points for shorebirds and waterfowl. Perhaps the most
surprising touch was the delivery of hot scones, jam and cream to your van
after you arrive! Needless to say I ended up staying an extra night and
while the birds were scarce, outside the usual suspects, and the weather
freezing, I know I will be back.

My question from all this laudatory prose is whether anyone has a bird list
for Urana, its lakes and immediate surrounds? Any suggestions where else to
go would also be gratefully accepted. Ciao

Chris Lloyd.

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