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Heavily tinted car windows + birding

To: Penny Brockman <>
Subject: Heavily tinted car windows + birding
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 08:01:48 +0000
I bet they would have come up with a different result if they'd done the tests 
in the hire car we were given in Alice Springs. It was charcoal grey, and 
heated up enough to melt the cheese we'd just bought in the 10 minutes we spent 
at the first stop we made. Maybe the top temperature would have ended up the 
same, but who cares about top temperatures when your food's wrecked in 10 
minutes?

I'd go for whatever tinting is standard. I agree with Chris that the roof is 
your main protection. We soon swapped that dark sedan for a white 4WD. The 
difference was incredible, and I attribute it to both the colour and the shape, 
the 4WD having squarer sides, which meant the roof gave a lot more shade.

Final anecdote: I once bought some flooring on a very hot day in Melbourne. The 
1200x2400 chipboard tied on the roof racks made such a difference to the heat 
that I was a bit sorry to have to take it off when I got home.

Peter Shute

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> On 26 May 2016, at 3:11 PM, Penny Brockman <> wrote:
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> Many years ago in England the Automobile Association carried out a study
> of whether white cars heated up more slowly or faster than dark coloured
> cars.  The result was that white cars heated up more slowly but
> eventually it didn't matter the colour of your car, they all achieved
> much the same temperature inside.
>> Well said Chris.  Most people up here drive white cars anyway.
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>>> On 26 May 2016, at 12:58 pm, Chris Corben <> wrote:
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>>> I wouldn't touch it with a 12 metre pole, but am happy to see others 
>>> contradict that.
>>>
>>> 1) In the tropics the sun is high over head in the heat of the day, so the 
>>> roof of your car will be far more important to how much heat ends up 
>>> inside. A shiny white roof must help!
>>>
>>> 2) Tinted windows force you to use your eyes with the pupils more open 
>>> which reduces your focusing ability, especially with age and reduced 
>>> flexibility of the lens. If it's not a problem in the heat of day, it will 
>>> be an issue in the twilight.
>>>
>>> 3) If you really like wearing sunglasses when birding, then it may not be 
>>> much of an issue for you. But you can easily take sunglasses off. Window 
>>> glass is a more permanent hindrance.
>>>
>>> I have never liked birding behind tinted windows. You can just see better 
>>> through clear glass. Clearer the better in my view!
>>>
>>> Cheers, Chris.
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>>>> On 5/25/2016 10:16 PM, Alan Gillanders wrote:
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> I am purchasing a new vehicle and it has been recommended to me that here 
>>>> in the tropics it is worth having the darkest tinting available to reduce 
>>>> heat in the car. My question is how disturbing if at all is that to the 
>>>> observation of wildlife from the vehicle?
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alan
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