The Decline of BA

To: Lawrie Conole <>
Subject: The Decline of BA
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 02:08:45 +0000
The requirement for "immediacy" isn't necessarily a conflict with record 
keeping. Email can be just as fast as Facebook, but not if there's moderation 
involved. There's also a delay with the current list server that we haven't 
been able to fix. For some reason, some postings can be delayed for random 
amounts of time after approval. It doesn't happen to gmail recipients, no idea 
why. When the list was still hosted by Vicnet, they used to be delivered 

Peter Shute

Sent from my iPad

> On 6 Jan 2016, at 12:43 PM, Lawrie Conole <> wrote:
> The disdain of the young for email versus social media platforms (my
> daughters are the same) is a conflict between immediacy and record keeping
> - forgetting that with immediacy comes ephemerality. Ephemerality is only a
> problem if you value what might be lost, and in a world of instant
> gratification perhaps to the majority that is just unimportant collateral
> damage. I use social media all the time, but I also like to record
> information - horses for courses.
> As someone indicated earlier, eBird is a great bridging platform. Permanent
> record for important/useful information, and moreover, easy to log data to
> from a smartphone in the field. Getting more user-friendly _and_ useful all
> the time.
> cheers
> Lawrie
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:48 AM Steve Clark <> wrote:
>> G'day all
>> In my post which started this thread I mentioned the fact that Facebook
>> isn't (as far as I know) searchable by Google, Bing etc.  So an interesting
>> behaviour observation someone posts today will be essentially lost to
>> future birders.  This was not the case with birding-aus which is archived
>> and searchable.
>> Apart from that I don't really care which forum people use.  If you want to
>> report something that people can access in years to come post it on
>> birding-aus at least and Facebook as well if you wish.
>> People rightly reject Facebook because of all the baggage that comes with
>> it.  Me too!  However you can access just the groups on iOS and Android
>> phones and tablets without all the baggage.  Search your app store for the
>> Facebook Groups app.  There is no version for standard computers
>> unfortunately (as far as I know).
>> Oh, and ask anyone under 30 what they think of email as a means of
>> communication.  My three kids won't use it.
>> Cheers
>> Steve Clark
>> Hamilton, Victoria
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