On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 at 13:08, Peter Shute <> wrote:
> The requirement for "immediacy" isn't necessarily a conflict with record
> keeping. Email can be just as fast as Facebook, but not if there's
> moderation involved. There's also a delay with the current list server that
> we haven't been able to fix. For some reason, some postings can be delayed
> for random amounts of time after approval. It doesn't happen to gmail
> recipients, no idea why. When the list was still hosted by Vicnet, they
> used to be delivered quickly.
> Peter Shute
> Sent from my iPad
> > On 6 Jan 2016, at 12:43 PM, Lawrie Conole <> wrote:
> > The disdain of the young for email versus social media platforms (my
> > daughters are the same) is a conflict between immediacy and record
> > - forgetting that with immediacy comes ephemerality. Ephemerality is
> only a
> > problem if you value what might be lost, and in a world of instant
> > gratification perhaps to the majority that is just unimportant collateral
> > damage. I use social media all the time, but I also like to record
> > information - horses for courses.
> > As someone indicated earlier, eBird is a great bridging platform.
> > record for important/useful information, and moreover, easy to log data
> > from a smartphone in the field. Getting more user-friendly _and_ useful
> > the time.
> > cheers
> > Lawrie
> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:48 AM Steve Clark <>
> >> G'day all
> >> In my post which started this thread I mentioned the fact that Facebook
> >> isn't (as far as I know) searchable by Google, Bing etc. So an
> >> behaviour observation someone posts today will be essentially lost to
> >> future birders. This was not the case with birding-aus which is
> >> and searchable.
> >> Apart from that I don't really care which forum people use. If you
> want to
> >> report something that people can access in years to come post it on
> >> birding-aus at least and Facebook as well if you wish.
> >> People rightly reject Facebook because of all the baggage that comes
> >> it. Me too! However you can access just the groups on iOS and Android
> >> phones and tablets without all the baggage. Search your app store for
> >> Facebook Groups app. There is no version for standard computers
> >> unfortunately (as far as I know).
> >> Oh, and ask anyone under 30 what they think of email as a means of
> >> communication. My three kids won't use it.
> >> Cheers
> >> Steve Clark
> >> Hamilton, Victoria
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