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The Decline of BA

To: Peter Shute <>
Subject: The Decline of BA
From: Lawrie Conole <>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 02:14:18 +0000
Ok, thanks.
On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 at 13:08, Peter Shute <> wrote:

> The requirement for "immediacy" isn't necessarily a conflict with record
> keeping. Email can be just as fast as Facebook, but not if there's
> moderation involved. There's also a delay with the current list server that
> we haven't been able to fix. For some reason, some postings can be delayed
> for random amounts of time after approval. It doesn't happen to gmail
> recipients, no idea why. When the list was still hosted by Vicnet, they
> used to be delivered quickly.
>
> Peter Shute
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 6 Jan 2016, at 12:43 PM, Lawrie Conole <> wrote:
> >
> > The disdain of the young for email versus social media platforms (my
> > daughters are the same) is a conflict between immediacy and record
> keeping
> > - forgetting that with immediacy comes ephemerality. Ephemerality is
> only a
> > problem if you value what might be lost, and in a world of instant
> > gratification perhaps to the majority that is just unimportant collateral
> > damage. I use social media all the time, but I also like to record
> > information - horses for courses.
> >
> > As someone indicated earlier, eBird is a great bridging platform.
> Permanent
> > record for important/useful information, and moreover, easy to log data
> to
> > from a smartphone in the field. Getting more user-friendly _and_ useful
> all
> > the time.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Lawrie
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:48 AM Steve Clark <>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> G'day all
> >>
> >> In my post which started this thread I mentioned the fact that Facebook
> >> isn't (as far as I know) searchable by Google, Bing etc.  So an
> interesting
> >> behaviour observation someone posts today will be essentially lost to
> >> future birders.  This was not the case with birding-aus which is
> archived
> >> and searchable.
> >>
> >> Apart from that I don't really care which forum people use.  If you
> want to
> >> report something that people can access in years to come post it on
> >> birding-aus at least and Facebook as well if you wish.
> >>
> >> People rightly reject Facebook because of all the baggage that comes
> with
> >> it.  Me too!  However you can access just the groups on iOS and Android
> >> phones and tablets without all the baggage.  Search your app store for
> the
> >> Facebook Groups app.  There is no version for standard computers
> >> unfortunately (as far as I know).
> >>
> >> Oh, and ask anyone under 30 what they think of email as a means of
> >> communication.  My three kids won't use it.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Steve Clark
> >> Hamilton, Victoria
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