To: Sonja Ross <>
Subject: EBird
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 05:50:29 +0000
Hi Sonja,

They don't seem to be state lists, but if they are there are big holes in them. 
Each location was slightly different. I would like them to be accurate, as 
there were several species, such as Eastern Ground Parrot, that I thought I 
would have to travel a couple of hundred Km or so to see.

Meanwhile, I think I will stick to the good old Mk I notepad and pencil


> On 17 Jun 2015, at 3:10 pm, Sonja Ross <> wrote:
> Hi Carl,
> I tried it out today for the first time and found it was better than the 
> original BirdLog one in that they have put the “done” at the top which makes 
> less flicking back and forward.   I had the impression that they were state 
> lists rather than local lists, but don’t really know.  I foun it easy to use 
> when out walking, but haven’t tried searching for a place/hotspot yet.
> Sonja
>> On 17 Jun 2015, at 3:04 pm, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
>> Peter,
>> When you find some nearby hotspots, you might get some interesting results. 
>> I have just pulled up Mataram Ridge Park, Woongarrah, on the NSW Central 
>> Coast and found an interesting list. Among other interesting species, were 
>> Little Penguin, Cape Barren Goose, Brown Booby, Emu, just about every 
>> species of robin in Aus, and something called Peep Sp. I would happily give 
>> $1000 per species to any one who can verify the presence of any of those 
>> species in Mataram.
>> I don't think I will bother using this app, if, when I go somewhere and pull 
>> up a list for a nearby hotspot and be presented with a list of birds that 
>> could not possibly be present.
>> Still needs a bit of work.
>> Carl Clifford
>>> On 17 Jun 2015, at 8:57 am, Peter Shute <> wrote:
>>> The eBird app has just been released for iOS. Looks very similar to 
>>> BirdLog, but now one can search for hotspots by town names rather than 
>>> having to use postcodes. I haven't tried entering any data yet.
>>> Oddly, when I searched for Wandiligong, the only results it returned were 
>>> local businesses rather than the town itself. Selecting one of those 
>>> resulted in a list of nearby hotspots, so the end result is the same.
>>> Peter Shute
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Roger Giller 
>>>> Sent: Monday, 8 June 2015 11:00 AM
>>>> To: Peter Shute; Sonja Ross
>>>> Cc: Paul Coddington; 
>>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] EBird
>>>> Peter et al,
>>>> eBird have brought the Birdlog App "in-house" and modified it to iron out
>>>> these problems. It will look and feel more like the on-line data entry,
>>>> and
>>>> is already being beta tested by reviewers.
>>>> Roger.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Peter Shute
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 8:28 PM
>>>> To: Sonja Ross
>>>> Cc: Paul Coddington ; 
>>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Ebird
>>>> I've just sent them all my complaints. Do they act on suggestions they
>>>> receive?
>>>> Peter Shute
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> On 7 Jun 2015, at 7:19 pm, Sonja Ross <> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>> It is annoying!   Have you tried to contact them about it?
>>>>> Sonja
>>>>>> On 7 Jun 2015, at 6:00 pm, Peter Shute <> wrote:
>>>>>> The only way I've found to select a location not near me in Birdlog is
>>>> to
>>>>>> select the Search Hotspots By City option, then enter the postcode of
>>>>>> that area. Then it lists all the hotspots in that area, which you can
>>>>>> search by entering a few letters. I don't know what you can do if you
>>>>>> need to enter data where there's no existing hotspot. Or if you don't
>>>>>> know the postcode.
>>>>>> Seems like a strange shortcoming of the app.
>>>>>> Peter Shute
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>> On 6 Jun 2015, at 6:09 pm, Paul Coddington
>>>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>>> I usually just use the standard search function on the computer to
>>>> jump
>>>>>>> to the species I want in the web interface, using the keyboard
>>>> shortcuts
>>>>>>> so it's faster (i.e. command F to search on my Mac), type in a few
>>>>>>> letters of the name (e.g "whist"), and then command G if it doesn't go
>>>>>>> to the species I want (Whistling Kite instead of Golden Whistler) and
>>>> I
>>>>>>> need to jump to the next one that matches what I typed in. It's a bit
>>>>>>> slow but not too bad.
>>>>>>> Using the Birdlog app is really quick for entering data since you just
>>>>>>> type in a few letters and it autocompletes and then you just pick the
>>>>>>> species from the matches it presents. But I can't figure out how to
>>>>>>> select locations that aren't near you when you're using the app, so
>>>> you'd
>>>>>>> need to pick a bogus location (e.g. a personal location for your
>>>> house)
>>>>>>> and then change the location to the actual place through the web
>>>>>>> interface once the list is uploaded from BirdLog.
>>>>>>>> On 6 Jun 2015, at 4:57 pm, Peter Shute <> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I don't mind entering lists for new trips as I do them, but I wish
>>>>>>>> there was a faster way to enter the backlog. Does anyone have any
>>>> tips
>>>>>>>> for doing it quicker?
>>>>>>>> The main trouble is that my notes list species as I encountered them,
>>>>>>>> which means trawling up and down the web page to find them to mark
>>>> them
>>>>>>>> off. It would help if I knew the species list order off by heart, but
>>>>>>>> I've only got a rough idea where any species is in the list, so I
>>>> have
>>>>>>>> to search for a lot of them. I've tried going through my notes doing
>>>>>>>> all the pigeons, then the parrots, etc, but that means I've got to go
>>>>>>>> through them multiple times, so it wastes as much time as it saves.
>>>>>>>> Peter Shute
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>> On 6 Jun 2015, at 2:53 pm, Paul Coddington
>>>>>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I did the same as Mona, and agree that it's rather mindless and
>>>>>>>>> laborious but very satisfying, and a good way to trigger nostalgic
>>>>>>>>> memories by reviewing all those old trips. I started with Australian
>>>>>>>>> trips where I saw lifers, and it only took me a couple of months or
>>>>>>>>> working on it now and then to get the Australian life list sorted,
>>>>>>>>> then I worked on trips that built my state list, then overseas
>>>> trips,
>>>>>>>>> then everything else. Overall it took about a year but now it's all
>>>>>>>>> done and it's easy to enter new lists.
>>>>>>>>> eBird is a great resource, and the the more people use it, and the
>>>>>>>>> more information is added to it, the more useful it becomes.
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 22:31:37 +1000
>>>>>>>>>> From: Mona Loofs Samorzewski <>
>>>>>>>>>> To: Adam Bruins <>
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: "" <>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Ebird
>>>>>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>>>>>> <>
>>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Adam
>>>>>>>>>> eBird does specifically cater to this very issue, check out the
>>>> ?How
>>>>>>>>>> to Upload Your Lifelist? help topic at
>>>>>>>>>> If you have the time and the inclination, all those lists in your
>>>>>>>>>> 20-odd notebooks would add fabulous data to eBird. I?ve spent about
>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> year uploading all of mine - kind of satisfying in a mindless,
>>>>>>>>>> laborious sort of way.
>>>>>>>>>> Good luck with it.
>>>>>>>>>> Mona
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4 Jun 2015, at 2:54 pm, Adam Bruins <>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey everyone
>>>>>>>>>>> Are there any savvy ebird users out there that could help me out?
>>>> My
>>>>>>>>>>> son and I have would like to upload our life list to ebird but
>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>> seem to find a way to do it without entering the exact date and
>>>>>>>>>>> other details. All we have is a all time list and about twenty
>>>>>>>>>>> little notebooks that would take years to sort through and upload.
>>>>>>>>>>> Any shortcuts please!
>>>>>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>>>>>> Adam Bruins
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