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Subject: EBird
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 00:00:46 +0000
That's good to hear. Regarding my problem with having to swap constantly 
between the alpha and the numeric keyboards, Birdlog tech support said that the 
reason the keyboard defaults to numeric in the species search bar is that this 
allows you to enter the count as well as the species. E.g. typing "7 suf" is 
enough to enter a count for 7 Superb Fairywrens.

That's convenient if you have a full keyboard, but annoying if you don't. Very 
annoying if you don't have counts to enter, and need to change the 1 to an X.

I'm experimenting with a 3rd party keyboard that has an extra row of numbers 
along the top of the alpha keyboard, and this seems to work ok. The keys are a 
little smaller, but there's not a lot of typing to be done, and I can easily 
swap back to the normal keyboard if I want.

For some reason, when Apple introduced support for third party keyboards with 
iOS 8, hundreds of developers decided that what people wanted was more colours 
and more emoticons on their keyboards, so it's very hard to find ones that are 
actually useful among all those.

I'm trying a free one called BullKey. I was a bit dubious because there's only 
one review. It also gives access emoticons thingies, and manages to squeeze an 
ad at the bottom of the keyboard, but it seems to work.

Third party keyboards can be a security risk if they demand full access, which 
allows them to transmit keystrokes back to a server. This one only asked for 
persmission to send me notifications, which I denied.

Peter Shute

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Giller 
> Sent: Monday, 8 June 2015 11:00 AM
> To: Peter Shute; Sonja Ross
> Cc: Paul Coddington; 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] EBird
>
> Peter et al,
>
> eBird have brought the Birdlog App "in-house" and modified it
> to iron out these problems. It will look and feel more like
> the on-line data entry, and is already being beta tested by reviewers.
>
> Roger.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Shute
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 8:28 PM
> To: Sonja Ross
> Cc: Paul Coddington ; 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Ebird
>
> I've just sent them all my complaints. Do they act on
> suggestions they receive?
>
> Peter Shute
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 7 Jun 2015, at 7:19 pm, Sonja Ross <> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > It is annoying!   Have you tried to contact them about it?
> >
> > Sonja
> >> On 7 Jun 2015, at 6:00 pm, Peter Shute <> wrote:
> >>
> >> The only way I've found to select a location not near me
> in Birdlog
> >> is to select the Search Hotspots By City option, then enter the
> >> postcode of that area. Then it lists all the hotspots in
> that area,
> >> which you can search by entering a few letters. I don't
> know what you
> >> can do if you need to enter data where there's no existing
> hotspot.
> >> Or if you don't know the postcode.
> >>
> >> Seems like a strange shortcoming of the app.
> >>
> >> Peter Shute
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On 6 Jun 2015, at 6:09 pm, Paul Coddington
> >>> <> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I usually just use the standard search function on the
> computer to
> >>> jump to the species I want in the web interface, using
> the keyboard
> >>> shortcuts so it's faster (i.e. command F to search on my
> Mac), type
> >>> in a few letters of the name (e.g "whist"), and then
> command G if it
> >>> doesn't go to the species I want (Whistling Kite instead
> of Golden
> >>> Whistler) and I need to jump to the next one that matches what I
> >>> typed in. It's a bit slow but not too bad.
> >>>
> >>> Using the Birdlog app is really quick for entering data since you
> >>> just type in a few letters and it autocompletes and then you just
> >>> pick the species from the matches it presents. But I can't figure
> >>> out how to select locations that aren't near you when
> you're using
> >>> the app, so you'd need to pick a bogus location (e.g. a personal
> >>> location for your house) and then change the location to
> the actual
> >>> place through the web interface once the list is uploaded
> from BirdLog.
> >>>
> >>>> On 6 Jun 2015, at 4:57 pm, Peter Shute <> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't mind entering lists for new trips as I do them,
> but I wish
> >>>> there was a faster way to enter the backlog. Does anyone
> have any
> >>>> tips for doing it quicker?
> >>>>
> >>>> The main trouble is that my notes list species as I encountered
> >>>> them, which means trawling up and down the web page to
> find them to
> >>>> mark them off. It would help if I knew the species list
> order off
> >>>> by heart, but I've only got a rough idea where any species is in
> >>>> the list, so I have to search for a lot of them. I've
> tried going
> >>>> through my notes doing all the pigeons, then the
> parrots, etc, but
> >>>> that means I've got to go through them multiple times,
> so it wastes as much time as it saves.
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter Shute
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 6 Jun 2015, at 2:53 pm, Paul Coddington
> >>>>> <> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I did the same as Mona, and agree that it's rather mindless and
> >>>>> laborious but very satisfying, and a good way to
> trigger nostalgic
> >>>>> memories by reviewing all those old trips. I started with
> >>>>> Australian trips where I saw lifers, and it only took
> me a couple
> >>>>> of months or working on it now and then to get the
> Australian life
> >>>>> list sorted, then I worked on trips that built my state
> list, then
> >>>>> overseas trips, then everything else. Overall it took
> about a year
> >>>>> but now it's all done and it's easy to enter new lists.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> eBird is a great resource, and the the more people use
> it, and the
> >>>>> more information is added to it, the more useful it becomes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 22:31:37 +1000
> >>>>>> From: Mona Loofs Samorzewski <>
> >>>>>> To: Adam Bruins <>
> >>>>>> Cc: "" <>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Ebird
> >>>>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>>> <>
> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Adam
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> eBird does specifically cater to this very issue,
> check out the
> >>>>>> ?How to Upload Your Lifelist? help topic at
> >>>>>> http://help.ebird.org/customer/portal/articles/973912
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you have the time and the inclination, all those
> lists in your
> >>>>>> 20-odd notebooks would add fabulous data to eBird. I?ve spent
> >>>>>> about a year uploading all of mine - kind of satisfying in a
> >>>>>> mindless, laborious sort of way.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Good luck with it.
> >>>>>> Mona
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 4 Jun 2015, at 2:54 pm, Adam Bruins
> >>>>>>> <>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hey everyone
> >>>>>>> Are there any savvy ebird users out there that could help me
> >>>>>>> out? My son and I have would like to upload our life list to
> >>>>>>> ebird but can't seem to find a way to do it without
> entering the
> >>>>>>> exact date and other details. All we have is a all
> time list and
> >>>>>>> about twenty little notebooks that would take years
> to sort through and upload.
> >>>>>>> Any shortcuts please!
> >>>>>>> Respectfully,
> >>>>>>> Adam Bruins
> >>>>>
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