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Yet another listing app!

To: 'Dave Torr' <>
Subject: Yet another listing app!
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:25:41 +1100
Found it, it's "Birding Sites" under "Come Birding": 
http://birdlifephotography.org.au/come-birding/birding-locations

Here's a random example of the useful stuff in it. The entry for Barmah 
(http://birdlifephotography.org.au/component/boca_birding_locations/showsite/12460-barmah)
 has a link to a pdf guide to the area by the Echuca branch of BOCA, whatever 
they're called now.

I'm sure lots of those resources linked to are gone or out of date by now, but 
lots would still be very useful. Does eBird have a place to record links to 
things like that?

Peter Shute 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Torr  
> Sent: Friday, 17 October 2014 9:20 AM
> To: Peter Shute
> Cc: Mark Gafney; birding-aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Yet another listing app!
> 
> Not off the top of my head and at work with limited internet 
> access, but if you go to birdlifephotography.org.au it is 
> under one of the menu items as Birding Sites (I think)​
> 
> On 17 October 2014 08:45, Peter Shute <> wrote:
> 
> 
>       Have you got a URL for it, Dave? I wanted to check it 
> for something a while back, but assumed it was long gone.
>       
>       Peter Shute
>       
> 
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: Dave Torr 
>       > Sent: Friday, 17 October 2014 8:00 AM
>       > To: Peter Shute
>       > Cc: Mark Gafney; birding-aus
>       > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Yet another listing app!
>       >
>       > Yes, that is correct Peter - I developed a system to record
>       > all of that stuff and put it on the old BOCA site - but it
>       > never was a recording system. It remains on the
>       > birdlifephotography site but has not been updated for years.
>       > Maybe if I get bored I will resurrect it next year....
>       >
>       >
>       > On 17 October 2014 07:52, Peter Shute 
> <> wrote:
>       >
>       >
>       >       Yes, before one rejects a new listing system perhaps
>       > one should consider whether it's better than previous ones.
>       > Has anyone tried this Konkoit database?
>       >
>       >       I agree with your final point about validation. As far
>       > as I know, this does distinguish eBird from many others, and
>       > it would be hard to beat it.
>       >
>       >       My memory of Dave Torr's project, if it's the one I'm
>       > thnking of, was that it was primarily intended to collate
>       > information about birding sites - locations, maps, brochures,
>       > etc. A good idea, and I don't think it has been made fully
>       > obsolete by the likes of eBird.
>       >
>       >       Peter Shute
>       >
>       >       > -----Original Message-----
>       >       > From: Birding-Aus
>       >       >  On
>       > Behalf Of Mark Gafney
>       >       > Sent: Thursday, 16 October 2014 10:19 PM
>       >       > To: Dave Torr
>       >       > Cc: birding-aus
>       >       > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Yet another listing app!
>       >       >
>       >
>       >       > Dave
>       >       > I seem to remember you launched your own 
> listing project some
>       >       > time ago. I dont see you pushing it anymore 
> so perhaps you
>       >       > took it down and are therefore maybe a bit 
> biased against
>       >       > others launching similar projects.
>       >       > I seem to remember other projects (I think 
> BirdStack was one)
>       >       > which also came and went probably because of the costs
>       >       > involved in running projects like this. My 
> point is that
>       >       > there are pros and cons to different projects 
> depending on
>       >       > what people want from their app but probably the most
>       >       > important thing is that the data gets 
> validated somewhere,
>       >       > otherwise garbage in--garbage out
>       >       >
>       >       > Cheers
>       >       > Mark
>       >       >
>       >       >
>       >       >
>       >       >
>       >       >
>       >       > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Dave Torr
>       >       > <> wrote:
>       >       >
>       >       > > Just had a email from Konkoit who have launched yet
>       > another listing
>       >       > > app - seriously how many does the world need and how
>       >       > fragmented will
>       >       > > all the data become if everyone uses a different
>       > system......
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