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Yet another listing app!

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Subject: Yet another listing app!
From: Grahame Rogers <>
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:09:16 +1000
When Eremaea eBird was launched, there was mention of a specific BirdLife Atlas entry form to ensure all the Atlas data was included in a list. Currently I use the Other Area input form, but a lot of the information required has to be entered in the Comments field - not a very satisfactory process. And there is no certainty that the data will reach the Atlas as there was with the old Eremaea. I understand there are plans for a new portal to the Atlas, but eBird is here and now, and brilliantly easy to use. It would take very little effort to add an Atlas entry form to Eremaea eBird. If you would use such a form, please let Eremaea and BirdLife Australia know:
http://help.ebird.org/customer/portal/emails/new?t=412380 and

 If there is enough interest we may get a form!

Regards
Grahame Rogers

On 17/10/2014 8:32 AM, Dave Torr wrote:
My understanding is that Eremaea used to be able to send stuff to the BA
atlas. Not sure if that happens with eBird?​

On 17 October 2014 09:29, Martin Butterfield <> wrote:

Given the way the message  from Konkoit appeared, I like many others
assumed it was spam and thus likely to lead to getting a few things I
didn't want as well as those advertised.   Since no-one from Konkoit has
seen fit to disabuse this list of that notion, I at least will be staying
well away from it.  (I find eBird to be very good for my purposes.)

A point raised in this thread has been that of data being held in multiple
locations.  I see that as an important issue given the role of data in
informing EISs development approvals etc.  This isn't to say there
shouldn't be multiple data capture mechanisms but the results should all
end 'somewhere' agreed to be the official repository.

Martin

Martin Butterfield
http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/

On 17 October 2014 07:52, Peter Shute <> wrote:

Yes, before one rejects a new listing system perhaps one should consider
whether it's better than previous ones. Has anyone tried this Konkoit
database?

I agree with your final point about validation. As far as I know, this
does distinguish eBird from many others, and it would be hard to beat it.

My memory of Dave Torr's project, if it's the one I'm thnking of, was
that it was primarily intended to collate information about birding sites -
locations, maps, brochures, etc. A good idea, and I don't think it has been
made fully obsolete by the likes of eBird.

Peter Shute

-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus
 On Behalf Of Mark Gafney
Sent: Thursday, 16 October 2014 10:19 PM
To: Dave Torr
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Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Yet another listing app!

Dave
I seem to remember you launched your own listing project some
time ago. I dont see you pushing it anymore so perhaps you
took it down and are therefore maybe a bit biased against
others launching similar projects.
I seem to remember other projects (I think BirdStack was one)
which also came and went probably because of the costs
involved in running projects like this. My point is that
there are pros and cons to different projects depending on
what people want from their app but probably the most
important thing is that the data gets validated somewhere,
otherwise garbage in--garbage out

Cheers
Mark





On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Dave Torr
<> wrote:

Just had a email from Konkoit who have launched yet another listing
app - seriously how many does the world need and how
fragmented will
all the data become if everyone uses a different system......
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