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Yet another listing app!

To: Peter Shute <>
Subject: Yet another listing app!
From: Martin Butterfield <>
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:29:56 +1100
Given the way the message  from Konkoit appeared, I like many others
assumed it was spam and thus likely to lead to getting a few things I
didn't want as well as those advertised.   Since no-one from Konkoit has
seen fit to disabuse this list of that notion, I at least will be staying
well away from it.  (I find eBird to be very good for my purposes.)

A point raised in this thread has been that of data being held in multiple
locations.  I see that as an important issue given the role of data in
informing EISs development approvals etc.  This isn't to say there
shouldn't be multiple data capture mechanisms but the results should all
end 'somewhere' agreed to be the official repository.

Martin

Martin Butterfield
http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/

On 17 October 2014 07:52, Peter Shute <> wrote:

> Yes, before one rejects a new listing system perhaps one should consider
> whether it's better than previous ones. Has anyone tried this Konkoit
> database?
>
> I agree with your final point about validation. As far as I know, this
> does distinguish eBird from many others, and it would be hard to beat it.
>
> My memory of Dave Torr's project, if it's the one I'm thnking of, was that
> it was primarily intended to collate information about birding sites -
> locations, maps, brochures, etc. A good idea, and I don't think it has been
> made fully obsolete by the likes of eBird.
>
> Peter Shute
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Birding-Aus
> >  On Behalf Of Mark Gafney
> > Sent: Thursday, 16 October 2014 10:19 PM
> > To: Dave Torr
> > Cc: birding-aus
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Yet another listing app!
> >
> > Dave
> > I seem to remember you launched your own listing project some
> > time ago. I dont see you pushing it anymore so perhaps you
> > took it down and are therefore maybe a bit biased against
> > others launching similar projects.
> > I seem to remember other projects (I think BirdStack was one)
> > which also came and went probably because of the costs
> > involved in running projects like this. My point is that
> > there are pros and cons to different projects depending on
> > what people want from their app but probably the most
> > important thing is that the data gets validated somewhere,
> > otherwise garbage in--garbage out
> >
> > Cheers
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Dave Torr
> > <> wrote:
> >
> > > Just had a email from Konkoit who have launched yet another listing
> > > app - seriously how many does the world need and how
> > fragmented will
> > > all the data become if everyone uses a different system......
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