Hi Michael,
I am happy to confuse you ;-)
Italian Sparrow (Passer italiae) is increasingly recognized as an example
of hybrid speciation (Elgvin et al 2011, Hermansen et al 2011). Most of
Europe has House Sparrow (Passer domesticus), overlapping with Italian
Sparrow only in far northern Italy and with Spanish Sparrow (Passer
hispaniolensis) more widely. Italian Sparrow occurs throughout Italy,
Corsica and Sicily (there are no House Sparrows in Sicily). Spanish
Sparrow occurs on the Iberian peninsula, Sardinia and the Middle East (and
deeper into Asia). Interestingly, the Sicilian population of Italian
Sparrow look somewhat similar to Spanish Sparrow.
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On 15/06/14 6:48 AM, "M. Hunter" <> wrote:
>Hi All, particularly Mediterranean birdos.
>
>We are on a trip to Sicily, birding has been very incidental, and what
>birds there are are generally very shy, although Swifts, my all time
>favourite European bird, are a till screaming and streaming around the
>cities in large numbers, otherwise House Sparrows, European Starlings,
>domestic pigeons, Wood Pigeons some doves, Greenfinches and Goldfinches,
>occasional Buzzards and Kestrels, Jackdaws at the ancient temples, the
>odd Seagull and tern
>
>However, our travels took us to an isolated building called Castello di
>Donnafugata in south-eastern Sicily, near Ragusa, and it has been
>colonised by large numbers of very noisy Sparrows, which looked extremely
>similar to the Spanish Sparrows we once chased up in Northern Spain,
>large, big bills, brown crowns, different plumage pattern on the back,
>sounded like noisy House Sparrows. Distinctly different from the still
>common House Sparrows in Sicilian towns.
>
> Is there a known population of Spanish Sparrows at Donnafugata, did I
>see Spanish sparrows, how did they get there,etc?
>
> Cheers
>
> Michael
>
>Sent from my iPad
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>> 3. Re: Bird-a Die (Julian Bielewicz)
>> 4. Sydney Pelagic on Sunday is Cancelled for Weather (Roger McGovern)
>> 5. Re: Black Cockatoos in flight (Philip Veerman)
>> 6. Re: Black Cockatoos in flight (martin cachard)
>> 7. Ouyen and Hattah, Vic (Jenny Spry)
>> 8. Re: Bird-a Die (Russell Woodford)
>> 9. Re: birding around australia (Dick Jenkin)
>> 10. Re: birding around australia (Russell Woodford)
>> 11. RFI Seychelles (Frank O'Connor)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:18:10 +1000
>> From: Martin Butterfield <>
>> To: birding-aus NEW <>
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Bird-a Die
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>> Well, my Bird-a Day sequence finished on Wednesday after staggering
>>around
>> for the last week. The penultimate record, of a very obliging
>>Australasian
>> Bittern in Belconnen was very exciting, but now the formal "competition"
>> takes a break for me until January 1. Good luck to the 4 Australians
>>who
>> are clearly still in the running (and any others who may be about to
>>catch
>> up with their data entry.
>>
>> 'Twas a hoot and I have summarised my experience in a blogpost
>>
>><http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/a-temporary-farewell-to-bird-day
>>.html>
>> .
>>
>> Martin Butterfield
>> http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:02:40 +0000
>> From: Sandy Gilmore <>
>> To: "" <>
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Black Cockatoos in flight
>> Message-ID:
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>> Hi everone,
>>
>> A very timely question since I frequently get Yellow-tailed Black
>>Cockatoos flying over and infrequently get Glossy Cockatoos flying over.
>>
>> While enjoying the sunset a few days back I had both species fly over a
>>few minutes apart and it was abundantly obvious that Glossy Cockatoos
>>flap their wings at twice or more the rate of Yellow-tailed Black
>>Cockatoos.
>>
>> This is in the situation where I presume both were returning to their
>>night time roosts and were flying high over a mixture of forest and
>>cleared paddocks.
>>
>> Aerodynamics experts would be able to explain this inter-specific
>>difference based substantially on their relative body weights, and wing
>>areas and wing spans.
>>
>> See http://jeb.biologists.org/content/150/1/171.full.pdf
>>
>> On another matter I have increased my White-throated Needletail
>>sightings over summer by an order of magnitude, plus observing other
>>interesting birds, by taking time to observe the sunset as often as
>>possible.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Sandy
>>
>>
>>
>> Sandy Gilmore
>> Arid Zone Ecologist
>>
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>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 11:29:29 +1000
>> From: "Julian Bielewicz" <>
>> To: "Martin Butterfield" <>, "birding-aus NEW"
>> <>
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Bird-a Die
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>> Greeting Martin, et al.
>>
>> Yes, my Bird-a-Day run is also at an end. As I believe Sonja Ross
>>pointed
>> out, those crossing international time zones might find securing a bird
>>on
>> the day of the flight a mite problematic. I had of course considered
>>the
>> possibility but our travelling schedule appeared to leave me time to
>> overcome any possible difficulties; the schedule didn't account for
>> unforeseen delays!
>>
>> My run ended on 31 May. I too have written a more comprehensive
>>account of
>> my Bird-a-Day demise at
>>
>> http://birderatlarge01.blogspot.com.au/
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:12:51 +1000
>> From: "Roger McGovern" <>
>> To: "birding-aus " <>
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Sydney Pelagic on Sunday is Cancelled for
>> Weather
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>> I have e-mailed all those booked on Sunday's pelagic to let them know
>>that
>> the trip has had to be cancelled due to high winds and big seas and am
>> posting the information here in case any other birding-aussers were
>>planning
>> to come. It is extremely frustrating as the weather has been benign all
>>week
>> and only turns bad in the small hours of Sunday morning!
>>
>>
>>
>> The next trip is scheduled for Saturday 12 July so please contact me to
>>make
>> a booking.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Roger McGovern
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:37:44 +1000
>> From: "Philip Veerman" <>
>> To: <>
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Black Cockatoos in flight
>> Message-ID: <>
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>>
>> Forshaw's Australian Parrots book describes Glossy Black Cockatoo as:
>> extremely buoyant flight with having slow, shallow wing beats, which
>>differ
>> markedly from the full flapping wing beats of the .....
>>YTBC............ So
>> a different suggestion.
>>
>> Neither does directly mean that speed of flight is different. If it
>>does it
>> would not suggest that Glossy Black Cockatoo is the slower one, which
>>was
>> the question posed by Mark. I wouldn't use slow flight as a feature to
>> identify a Glossy Black Cockatoo cf YTBC.
>>
>> Philip
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birding-Aus On
>>Behalf Of
>> Sandy Gilmore
>> Sent: Friday, 13 June 2014 10:03 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Black Cockatoos in flight
>>
>>
>> Hi everone,
>>
>> A very timely question since I frequently get Yellow-tailed Black
>>Cockatoos
>> flying over and infrequently get Glossy Cockatoos flying over.
>>
>> While enjoying the sunset a few days back I had both species fly over a
>>few
>> minutes apart and it was abundantly obvious that Glossy Cockatoos flap
>>their
>> wings at twice or more the rate of Yellow-tailed Black Cockatoos.
>>
>> This is in the situation where I presume both were returning to their
>>night
>> time roosts and were flying high over a mixture of forest and cleared
>> paddocks.
>>
>> Aerodynamics experts would be able to explain this inter-specific
>>difference
>> based substantially on their relative body weights, and wing areas and
>>wing
>> spans.
>>
>> See http://jeb.biologists.org/content/150/1/171.full.pdf
>>
>> On another matter I have increased my White-throated Needletail
>>sightings
>> over summer by an order of magnitude, plus observing other interesting
>> birds, by taking time to observe the sunset as often as possible.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Sandy
>>
>>
>>
>> Sandy Gilmore
>> Arid Zone Ecologist
>>
>> Bush Heritage Australia
>> "Morinda" 240 Mafeking Road, Goonengerry NSW 2482.
>>
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>> Level 5, 395 Collins Street, Melbourne Vic 3000
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:33:14 +1030
>> From: martin cachard <>
>> To: Philip Veerman <>,
>> "" <>
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Black Cockatoos in flight
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>>
>> that's right Philip, I wouldn't either...
>> the markedly slower flight & deeper wing-beats of Yellow-taileds when
>>compared to Glossy, or even Red-taileds, is rather obvious when u see
>>both species fairly often, as Sandy has pointed out earlier.
>> it actually is a good field character for discerning Yellow-taileds
>>from Glossy, but the flight patterns of Red-taileds & Glossy would be
>>too close to call with any accuracy I would say...
>> I would assume that WA Carnaby's would be similar to Yellow-taileds
>>given their close relationship, but I've not seen Baudin's often enough
>>myself, without checking the books first.
>> as for Baudin's...I don't know...???
>>
>> cheers
>> martin cachard,
>> cairns
>>
>>
>>> From:
>>> To:
>>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:37:44 +1000
>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Black Cockatoos in flight
>>>
>>> Forshaw's Australian Parrots book describes Glossy Black Cockatoo as:
>>> extremely buoyant flight with having slow, shallow wing beats, which
>>>differ
>>> markedly from the full flapping wing beats of the .....
>>>YTBC............ So
>>> a different suggestion.
>>>
>>> Neither does directly mean that speed of flight is different. If it
>>>does it
>>> would not suggest that Glossy Black Cockatoo is the slower one, which
>>>was
>>> the question posed by Mark. I wouldn't use slow flight as a feature to
>>> identify a Glossy Black Cockatoo cf YTBC.
>>>
>>> Philip
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Birding-Aus On
>>>Behalf Of
>>> Sandy Gilmore
>>> Sent: Friday, 13 June 2014 10:03 AM
>>> To:
>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Black Cockatoos in flight
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi everone,
>>>
>>> A very timely question since I frequently get Yellow-tailed Black
>>>Cockatoos
>>> flying over and infrequently get Glossy Cockatoos flying over.
>>>
>>> While enjoying the sunset a few days back I had both species fly over
>>>a few
>>> minutes apart and it was abundantly obvious that Glossy Cockatoos flap
>>>their
>>> wings at twice or more the rate of Yellow-tailed Black Cockatoos.
>>>
>>> This is in the situation where I presume both were returning to their
>>>night
>>> time roosts and were flying high over a mixture of forest and cleared
>>> paddocks.
>>>
>>> Aerodynamics experts would be able to explain this inter-specific
>>>difference
>>> based substantially on their relative body weights, and wing areas and
>>>wing
>>> spans.
>>>
>>> See http://jeb.biologists.org/content/150/1/171.full.pdf
>>>
>>> On another matter I have increased my White-throated Needletail
>>>sightings
>>> over summer by an order of magnitude, plus observing other interesting
>>> birds, by taking time to observe the sunset as often as possible.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Sandy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sandy Gilmore
>>> Arid Zone Ecologist
>>>
>>> Bush Heritage Australia
>>> "Morinda" 240 Mafeking Road, Goonengerry NSW 2482.
>>>
>>> Conservation Support Centre
>>> Level 5, 395 Collins Street, Melbourne Vic 3000
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:03:55 +1000
>> From: Jenny Spry <>
>> To: birding-aus <>
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Ouyen and Hattah, Vic
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> With a 3 day weekend we needed to get out of Melbourne. Camping would
>>take
>> too much organising (well, OK, truthfully, winter in Vic is a bit cold
>>for
>> a tent these days - smile). We got a room at the Ouyen Motel and had
>> dinners at the hotel across from the railway station. The food was OK
>>pub
>> food but the building, opened in 1919 when the publican was a Mr Greed,
>>is
>> special. There is a grand central staircase out of the foyer and all the
>> doors have ornate lead-light panels announcing the "Commercial
>>Travellers"
>> room, "Ladies Lounge", "Bar" and three "Dinning Rooms". I felt totally
>> under-dressed in my birding gear and wished I had packed my full
>>Edwardian
>> dinner gown (smile).
>>
>> Our first stop was at Lake Tyrell to look for Rufous Fieldwrens (found)
>>and
>> Orange Chats (dipped), look for new birding locations around Ouyen, try
>> Honeymoon Track in the Sunset Country and have a look at Hattah.
>>
>> For our new location we were driving along Scott Road south west of
>>Ouyen
>> in the Timberoo Nature Reserve. When we saw the Native Pines on Scott
>>Road
>> we both thought "White-browed Treecreeper". We stopped and got out and
>>yes,
>> there they were. A little further down the road we found the Timberoo
>> Water-well. The well was dry but the surrounding bush was full of
>>birds. A
>> magic location and for those without a 4X4 it is a sealed road location
>>for
>> White-browed Treecreeper that is closer to Melbourne than Yarrara.
>>
>> Sunset was very quiet but we tried it on Saturday afternoon and again on
>> Sunday morning. From there we took back roads across to Pink Lakes and
>> found they are full of water. A quick drive for about 1 km along the Mt
>> Crozier track (X-Trail or Subie etc but not 2 wheel drive) got us to our
>> Striated Grasswren site and Joy heard them calling before we were out of
>> the car. I couldn't hear them but I saw them first as I nearly stepped
>>on
>> one getting out of the car.
>>
>> The Big surprise for the weekend was when we got into Hattah. It is a
>>MUST
>> visit right now if you have the time because all the lakes are full and
>> they are actually still pumping water in as part of an environmental
>>flow
>> and they have recently had good rains. Even the campground at Lake
>>Hattah
>> is flooded and they have built a causeway across it.
>>
>> Out on the road to Mournpall we stopped at a group of tall redgums and 7
>> species of parrot were sunning and checking out nesting hollows. There
>>were
>> Regent Parrot, Australian Ringneck, Yellow Rosella, Major Mitchell
>> Cockatoo, Little Corella, Galah and Sulphur-crested Cockatoo. It was a
>> magic sight. The sun was out and the mix of colours, pinks and greys and
>> yellows and greens, all flashing and shining, was spectacular. I have
>>never
>> before seen so many beautiful bird species crowded into such a small
>>space.
>>
>> I will do a blog with some photos but it might not get up until after
>>this
>> weekend as I hear that Kamarooka is full of birds and a visit is
>>mandatory
>> (smile).
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Jenny
>> http://jenniferspryausbirding.blogspot.com.au/
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:31:13 +1000
>> From: Russell Woodford <>
>> To: Julian Bielewicz <>
>> Cc: birding-aus NEW <>
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Bird-a Die
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> After a great road trip to Brisbane last weekend (Grey-crowned Babbler,
>> Red-browed Treecreeper, Mangrove Gerygone, Blue-faced Honeyeater) the
>>rest
>> of the week fell a bit flat (haven't decided yet, but House Sparrow,
>> Magpie-Lark and Little Raven seem likely to feature). Early starts and
>>late
>> finishes at work have whittled away my "see anywhere" birds, but I do
>>have
>> a little time each day over this weekend, and hopefully a couple of
>>half
>> days off next week. My goal for this year is 19th July (=200 birds)
>>after
>> falling just short last year. I will need some cooperative birds to pop
>>out
>> of the woodwork - literally - when I make lightning visits to Serendip,
>>You
>> Yangs, etc. I think I've just about used up all possibilities at Western
>> Treatment Plant, unless I get time for a longer visit. But when I think
>>of
>> what I HAVE seen already, it's easily my best birding year yet!
>>
>> Russell Woodford
>> Geelong
>>
>>
>>> On 13 June 2014 11:29, Julian Bielewicz <>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>> Greeting Martin, et al.
>>>
>>> Yes, my Bird-a-Day run is also at an end. As I believe Sonja Ross
>>>pointed
>>> out, those crossing international time zones might find securing a
>>>bird on
>>> the day of the flight a mite problematic. I had of course considered
>>>the
>>> possibility but our travelling schedule appeared to leave me time to
>>> overcome any possible difficulties; the schedule didn't account for
>>> unforeseen delays!
>>>
>>> My run ended on 31 May. I too have written a more comprehensive
>>>account
>>> of my Bird-a-Day demise at
>>>
>>> http://birderatlarge01.blogspot.com.au/
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:16:04 +1000
>> From: "Dick Jenkin" <>
>> To: "'Greg Roberts'" <>, "'birding-aus'"
>> <>
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] birding around australia
>> Message-ID: <>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Hi Greg
>>
>> Green with envy . Love the outback and the lighting for photography.
>>Should
>> get out there more often. Enjoy the trip.
>>
>> I thought someone would pick this up and comment so I'll jump in instead
>> was the Frock Bronzewing a male bird sitting on a rock ? :) :)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Dick Jenkin
>> DUNGOG NSW
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birding-Aus On
>>Behalf Of
>> Greg Roberts
>> Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2014 8:25 PM
>> To: birding-aus
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] birding around australia
>>
>> Hi all
>> I have embarked on a four-month road trip around Australia, with just
>>over
>> one week now passed.
>> Some interesting birds seen to date in western Queensland include Frock
>> Bronzewing, Spinifex Pigeon, Little Woodswallow, Black-chinned
>>Honeyeater
>> and Grey-fronted and Grey-headed Honeyeaters.
>> Anyone interested in following the sojourn to top birding destinations
>> around Australia, please hook into this blog as it will publish
>>highlights
>> and pictures as we travel around the country:
>> http://sunshinecoastbirds.blogspot.com.au/'
>> Greg Roberts
>>
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 19:29:57 +1000
>> From: Russell Woodford <>
>> To: Dick Jenkin <>
>> Cc: birding-aus <>, Greg Roberts
>> <>
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] birding around australia
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>> Frock Bronzewing: I'm thinking Priscilla, Queen of the Desert ...
>>
>>
>>> On 13 June 2014 18:16, Dick Jenkin <> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Greg
>>>
>>> Green with envy . Love the outback and the lighting for photography.
>>>Should
>>> get out there more often. Enjoy the trip.
>>>
>>> I thought someone would pick this up and comment so I'll jump in
>>>instead
>>> was the Frock Bronzewing a male bird sitting on a rock ? :) :)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Dick Jenkin
>>> DUNGOG NSW
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Birding-Aus On
>>>Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Greg Roberts
>>> Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2014 8:25 PM
>>> To: birding-aus
>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] birding around australia
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>> I have embarked on a four-month road trip around Australia, with just
>>>over
>>> one week now passed.
>>> Some interesting birds seen to date in western Queensland include Frock
>>> Bronzewing, Spinifex Pigeon, Little Woodswallow, Black-chinned
>>>Honeyeater
>>> and Grey-fronted and Grey-headed Honeyeaters.
>>> Anyone interested in following the sojourn to top birding destinations
>>> around Australia, please hook into this blog as it will publish
>>>highlights
>>> and pictures as we travel around the country:
>>> http://sunshinecoastbirds.blogspot.com.au/'
>>> Greg Roberts
>>>
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 19:30:56 +0800
>> From: Frank O'Connor <>
>> To:
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] RFI Seychelles
>> Message-ID: <>
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>>
>> I am going on a tour of Madagascar in November (6th to 27th). I have
>> heard that there are flights from Madagascar to Seychelles. So I was
>> thinking about spending a few days on the Seychelles on the way.
>>
>> I believe there are 12 endemics, and probably other birds I would
>> like to see such as Tropical Shearwater.
>>
>> Am I right about the flights? If so, is it every day or only some days?
>>
>> Is there a local bird guide on the Seychelles?
>>
>> How long is recommended to stay there? I understand that you need to
>> move around the islands, so that will take time. I have found the web
>> site
>> http://www.seychellesbirdrecordscommittee.com/where-to-watch-birds.html
>> which has some very good information which I have yet to study in
>>detail.
>>
>> Thanks for any help
>>
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
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>> http://birdingwa.iinet.net.au
>> Phone : (08) 9386 5694 Email :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:32:38 -0500
>> From: Chris Corben <>
>> To: Sandy Gilmore <>,
>> "" <>
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Swifts at sunset.
>> Message-ID: <>
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>> Hey Sandy!
>>
>> Ever seen the swifts roosting? Or suspected you might be in a place
>> where that happens?
>>
>> Some of us witnessed this many years ago near Brisbane - a lone bird
>> flying repeatedly past a particular point at dusk ended up landing and
>> roosting in a cluster of foliage near the top of the tree. Apparently
>> this is normal behaviour for this species, but rarely seen.
>>
>> Cheers, Chris.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 06/12/2014 07:02 PM, Sandy Gilmore wrote:
>>> Hi everone,
>>>
>>> A very timely question since I frequently get Yellow-tailed Black
>>>Cockatoos flying over and infrequently get Glossy Cockatoos flying over.
>>>
>>> While enjoying the sunset a few days back I had both species fly over
>>>a few minutes apart and it was abundantly obvious that Glossy Cockatoos
>>>flap their wings at twice or more the rate of Yellow-tailed Black
>>>Cockatoos.
>>>
>>> This is in the situation where I presume both were returning to their
>>>night time roosts and were flying high over a mixture of forest and
>>>cleared paddocks.
>>>
>>> Aerodynamics experts would be able to explain this inter-specific
>>>difference based substantially on their relative body weights, and wing
>>>areas and wing spans.
>>>
>>> See http://jeb.biologists.org/content/150/1/171.full.pdf
>>>
>>> On another matter I have increased my White-throated Needletail
>>>sightings over summer by an order of magnitude, plus observing other
>>>interesting birds, by taking time to observe the sunset as often as
>>>possible.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Sandy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sandy Gilmore
>>> Arid Zone Ecologist
>>>
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>> Message: 13
>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 20:37:50 +0930
>> From: Denise Goodfellow <>
>> To: Russ <>
>> Cc: Dick Jenkin <>, birding-aus
>> <>, Greg Roberts
>><>
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Priscilla and birds
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>> How could you not think of Priscilla, one of my favourite films!
>>
>> My daughter, Crystal Love, is a proud transexual.
>>
>> Some years ago three Sydney birders asked if I could arrange a trip to
>>the Tiwi Islands. Crystal offered to guide them. I sounded the men
>>out; they seemed very nice, not at all the types who would give her a
>>hard time. I gather that they enjoyed themselves thoroughly.
>>
>> Then in Kakadu a few years ago, while guiding a Jewish-American couple
>>I stopped at Cooinda for dinner. Unbeknown to me the Hepatitis and Aids
>>Council was holding a retreat. Suddenly Crystal materialised and
>>bursting into tears threw herself in my arms, and then proceeded to tell
>>the couple all about our relationship.
>> This wonderful pair didn?t bat an eyelid on meeting my huge, 1.8 m.
>>Aboriginal daughter, and indeed insisted that we stay to watch the
>>entertainment later that night. I greeted this announcement with some
>>trepidation. Gene had been telling me of the enjoyment he felt in
>>reading the Torah in the synagogue. Did he know what he was in for?
>>
>> I need not have worried. Gene and Kathy were in stitches as a parade
>>of trannies danced around wearing costumes of sequins and gauze, watched
>>proudly by their relatives, traditional owners of Kakadu and me. One
>>even sat on Gene's lap! They were a great couple! Oh, and we saw
>>some nice birds as well.
>>
>> And just in case no one believes me, I?ve witnesses, and photos!
>>
>> Denise
>>
>> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
>> PO Box 71
>> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
>>
>> PhD candidate
>> Vice-chair Wildlife Tourism Australia
>>
>>
>> Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia
>> Founding Member: Australian Federation of Graduate Women Northern
>>Territory
>> 043 8650 835
>>
>>
>>> On 13 Jun 2014, at 6:59 pm, Russell Woodford <>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>> Frock Bronzewing: I'm thinking Priscilla, Queen of the Desert ...
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 13 June 2014 18:16, Dick Jenkin <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Greg
>>>>
>>>> Green with envy . Love the outback and the lighting for photography.
>>>>Should
>>>> get out there more often. Enjoy the trip.
>>>>
>>>> I thought someone would pick this up and comment so I'll jump in
>>>>instead
>>>> was the Frock Bronzewing a male bird sitting on a rock ? :) :)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Dick Jenkin
>>>> DUNGOG NSW
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Birding-Aus On
>>>>Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>> Greg Roberts
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2014 8:25 PM
>>>> To: birding-aus
>>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] birding around australia
>>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>> I have embarked on a four-month road trip around Australia, with just
>>>>over
>>>> one week now passed.
>>>> Some interesting birds seen to date in western Queensland include
>>>>Frock
>>>> Bronzewing, Spinifex Pigeon, Little Woodswallow, Black-chinned
>>>>Honeyeater
>>>> and Grey-fronted and Grey-headed Honeyeaters.
>>>> Anyone interested in following the sojourn to top birding destinations
>>>> around Australia, please hook into this blog as it will publish
>>>>highlights
>>>> and pictures as we travel around the country:
>>>> http://sunshinecoastbirds.blogspot.com.au/'
>>>> Greg Roberts
>>>>
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