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Frasers Hill vs Cameron Highlands?

To: Paul Dodd <>, 'Bob Ashford' <>, 'Birding Aus' <>
Subject: Frasers Hill vs Cameron Highlands?
From: Denise Goodfellow <>
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2014 20:58:13 +0930
Hilary Thompson, the kids and I were at Fraser's Hill in the mid-eighties.

I can't remember where we stayed.  But I do remember that an Indian family
took us under their wing and we ate in the same restaurant they did, and
also visited their house.  They looked after us like family.

A Chinese birder who was also visiting, helped point out places to look for
birds (amazing what one can understand even if you don't speak one another's
language).


Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
PO Box 71,  Darwin River,
NT 0841
043 8650 835





On 1/1/14 7:14 PM, "Paul Dodd" <> wrote:

> Hi Bob,
> 
> If you don't have your own transport then do Fraser's Hill. Cameron
> Highlands is far too spread out to walk. There are a couple of high-altitude
> specialties that you'll miss out on by not going to the Cameron Highlands,
> but that will more than be made up for by the variety within walking
> distance of any of the accommodations at Fraser's Hill. People say that you
> need to drive around Fraser's Hill, but when Ruth and I were there we had
> car trouble (we hired a Proton - big mistake!) so we were forced to walk -
> no problem, we still saw everything we wanted to. Things may have changed,
> but all accommodation on Fraser's Hill is somewhat tired. We stayed at
> Fraser's Silverpark Resort and found that the rooms were somewhat mildew-ey,
> but at least it had reasonable gardens and wasn't too far a walk from the
> town centre and from the Bishop's Trail. The one trail you probably can't do
> by foot is the Telekom Loop - which is the highest altitude trail on
> Fraser's Hill.  There are several restaurants on Fraser's Hill - including a
> Chinese restaurant which is quite good. The Malaysian restaurants (there are
> two next to each other) are OK, but the difficulty we had was in identifying
> the food - there were few that spoke English at either of those restaurants.
> All part of the adventure, though. As for guides, there are plenty of
> independent guides operating in Malaysia, a quick Google search will find
> most. If you are self-guiding, then it will pay to stop in at the
> Information Centre (near the Mosque and over the road from the Chinese
> Restaurant, if memory serves me correctly) - ask for Durai - he is a
> well-known Fraser's Hill personality, and he certainly knows his birds. If
> he has time he will guide you for an hour or a day or whatever you can work
> out. He didn't charge us anything, but that was several years ago now.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Paul Dodd
> Docklands, Victoria
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of
> Bob Ashford
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2014 4:31 PM
> To: Birding Aus
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Frasers Hill vs Cameron Highlands?
> 
> Hi Birders and good birding for 2014,
> 
>  
> 
> I shall be in Kuala Lumpur between 07 and 11 April (dates not absolutely
> finalised)
> 
> And I am intending to go to either Fraser's Hill or the Cameron Highlands
> 
>  
> 
> I shall probably take local transport to either and then spend my time
> walking and birding
> 
>  
> 
> I would really appreciate any suggestions from those that have been to
> either to help me decide.
> 
> Access, accommodation, best trails, local on-site birders/guides, etc
> 
> I am not looking for expensive accommodation just a place to lay my head
> 
> I understand places to eat may be a challenge
> 
> Rather spend my cash on a guide than accomm
> 
>  
> 
> Appreciate any help
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Bob Ashford
> 
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