Yep, me too Carl. But this does often limit social interaction which at
other times may be desirable for some folk. I prefer a clear distinction
between birding and socializing - for me, ne'er the twain should meet, not
on outings anyway.
-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Clifford
Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013 9:59 AM
To: Tony Russell
Cc: Alan Gillanders; Allan Richardson; Philip Veerman;
Subject: Chatting while bird watching in a group
The seemingly endless chatter that goes on among birders in groups, is the
main reason why I no longer go out birding with groups. I only go birding by
myself or with one or two others that I know that can keep shtum.
Carl Clifford
On 12/07/2013, at 8:57, "Tony Russell" <> wrote:
> Whenever I go out birding with a talkative group I always find myself
> becoming impatient with their chatter and move out ahead of them.
> Their chatting is often nothing to do with birds or birding, just
> social, family or kitchen table stuff. No amount of shushing seems to
> have any effect - I often wonder why they have bothered coming out
> because they tend to miss lots of birds anyway even if they do quiet
> down briefly, the birds having moved on. Such chatting should be reserved
for bird call time.
>
> Grumpy old Tony.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> On Behalf Of Alan
> Gillanders
> Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2013 3:54 PM
> To: Allan Richardson; Philip Veerman
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Chatting while bird watching in a group
>
> G'day Allan,
> I have a Golden Bowerbird which responds positively to my voice
(sometimes).
>
> I do not feed this bird or offer him any enticements. One time when I
> approached the bower there was a group already there who informed me
> that the bird was not around. I new better as I had heard him quietly
> doing his not very good Crimson Rosella imitations. I got everyone set
> up around the bower at a distance which would not upset the bird and
> spoke loudly, "Good morning handsome." He came down to a nearby
> sapling before heading over to his favourite perch from which to watch his
bower. All had good looks.
>
> On reflection it might have been, "G'day Stupid." It is not only this
> bird which is somewhat disturbed.
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allan Richardson
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 4:02 PM
> To: Philip Veerman
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Chatting while bird watching in a group
>
> Hi Phil,
>
> I reckon the chatting would mean your list for the day would be lower,
> not because of flushing birds (unless someone is unduly loud), but
> because of missing birds while your mind isn't on the job at hand.
>
> Nevertheless - birds do have a way of being obvious sometimes when
> folk are relaxed.
>
> Allan Richardson
> Morisset NSW
>
> On 11/07/2013, at 3:17 PM, Philip Veerman wrote:
>
>> Peter wrote: "I'm also wondering if making voice notes ever spooks
birds."
>> That struck me as amusing. Mainly because my formative birding years
>> were as a young teenager with the BOCA in the early 1970s. I recall
>> many loud chatterings among excited people looking at birds. Amusing
>> chat of people talking not just amongst but to themselves. Social
>> groups are still like that. Surely Peter has also been with a group
>> of birders looking at birds and discussing what it is - or discussing
>> the weather or football or anything else. And been able to see the
>> reaction. Then again it is hard to know if people talking is what
>> would make a bird move away. Yes of course for some birds quietness
>> helps but I doubt that one person discretely talking into a machine
>> held a few cm from their face is a problem.
>>
>> But thanks to Peter for adding a subject line........
>>
>> Philip
>>
>> -----Original Message-----From:
>>
>> On Behalf Of Peter
>> Shute
>> Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2013 3:35 AM To: Carl Clifford Cc:
>> <> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Recorders for
>> note taking - was (no subject)
>>
>>
>> Has anyone tried these small recorders in the wind? It would be
>> disappointing if you couldn't hear your notes later because of wind
>> rumble.
>>
>> I'm also wondering if making voice notes ever spooks birds.
>>
>> Peter Shute
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
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