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Shooting coots

To: David Stowe <>
Subject: Shooting coots
From: Dave Torr <>
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 16:22:39 +1000
Maybe - as theoretically the shooting is for food (!) - a coot is not too
good to eat?

On 24 May 2013 13:51, David Stowe <> wrote:

> I think you are looking at it the wrong way Jeremy.
> As you said, You should be asking why some species are allowed to be
> hunted? Are they so overpopulated etc?
> There's nothing that i know of about a Coot that makes it special - its
> the same as the majority of other species that aren't on the "allowed to
> hunt" list. The default position (thankfully) is that all species of birds
> are protected - except for a small number of permitted ones.
> Why they aren't protected is indeed the question!
> Cheers
> Dave
>
>
> On 23/05/2013, at 10:53 PM, "Jeremy O'Wheel" <> wrote:
>
> > Ok, so then why are some duck species allowed to be hunted?  What is it
> > about coots that means they weren't put on the list of birds that can be
> > hunted?  Is it a low population thing, or something else?
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> >
> > On 23 May 2013 22:27,  <
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Jeremy,
> >> All native species of birds are protected in Victoria with permits being
> >> required to capture, tag, shoot or otherwise. In regards to capture and
> >> tag, researchers need animal ethics approval before DEPI (Dept of
> >> Environment and Primary Industries - formerly DSE) will issue a research
> >> permit. Game shooters need a gun licence and do the duck id test, while
> >> those culling cockies etc need to apply to depi for a permit to cull a
> set
> >> number.
> >>
> >> Yours in all things "green"
> >>
> >> John Harris
> >> Croydon, Vic
> >> Owner - Wildlife Experiences
> >> Ecologist/Zoologist
> >> Nature Photographer
> >> Wildlife Guide
> >> 
> >> 0409090955
> >>
> >> President, Field Naturalists Club of Victoria
> >> (www.fncv.org.au)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Reply message -----
> >> From: "Jeremy O'Wheel" <>
> >> To: "Debbie Lustig" <>
> >> Cc: "birding-aus" <>
> >> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Shooting coots
> >> Date: Thu, May 23, 2013 20:45
> >>
> >>
> >> This might be a silly question, but why are coots protected? Is it
> because
> >> of population numbers, or because historically they're not eaten? Or
> some
> >> othere reason?
> >>
> >> Jeremy
> >> On 23/05/2013 3:52 PM, "Debbie Lustig" <>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> With three weeks of the season to go, Coalition Against Duck Shooting
> >>> rescuers have retrieved fully 224 dead coots and taken 30 wounded coots
> >> to
> >>> veterinary care. If you find this unacceptable, please write to the
> >>> Premier,
> >>> your local state MP, and the shadow Opposition Leader, Daniel Andrews.
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