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Shooting coots

To: "Jeremy O'Wheel" <>
Subject: Shooting coots
From: David Stowe <>
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 13:51:32 +1000
I think you are looking at it the wrong way Jeremy.
As you said, You should be asking why some species are allowed to be hunted? 
Are they so overpopulated etc?
There's nothing that i know of about a Coot that makes it special - its the 
same as the majority of other species that aren't on the "allowed to hunt" 
list. The default position (thankfully) is that all species of birds are 
protected - except for a small number of permitted ones.
Why they aren't protected is indeed the question!
Cheers
Dave


On 23/05/2013, at 10:53 PM, "Jeremy O'Wheel" <> wrote:

> Ok, so then why are some duck species allowed to be hunted?  What is it
> about coots that means they weren't put on the list of birds that can be
> hunted?  Is it a low population thing, or something else?
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> 
> On 23 May 2013 22:27,  <
> > wrote:
> 
>> Jeremy,
>> All native species of birds are protected in Victoria with permits being
>> required to capture, tag, shoot or otherwise. In regards to capture and
>> tag, researchers need animal ethics approval before DEPI (Dept of
>> Environment and Primary Industries - formerly DSE) will issue a research
>> permit. Game shooters need a gun licence and do the duck id test, while
>> those culling cockies etc need to apply to depi for a permit to cull a set
>> number.
>> 
>> Yours in all things "green"
>> 
>> John Harris
>> Croydon, Vic
>> Owner - Wildlife Experiences
>> Ecologist/Zoologist
>> Nature Photographer
>> Wildlife Guide
>> 
>> 0409090955
>> 
>> President, Field Naturalists Club of Victoria
>> (www.fncv.org.au)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Jeremy O'Wheel" <>
>> To: "Debbie Lustig" <>
>> Cc: "birding-aus" <>
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Shooting coots
>> Date: Thu, May 23, 2013 20:45
>> 
>> 
>> This might be a silly question, but why are coots protected? Is it because
>> of population numbers, or because historically they're not eaten? Or some
>> othere reason?
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> On 23/05/2013 3:52 PM, "Debbie Lustig" <>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> With three weeks of the season to go, Coalition Against Duck Shooting
>>> rescuers have retrieved fully 224 dead coots and taken 30 wounded coots
>> to
>>> veterinary care. If you find this unacceptable, please write to the
>>> Premier,
>>> your local state MP, and the shadow Opposition Leader, Daniel Andrews.
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