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Avian Hybrids

To: Dave Torr <>
Subject: Avian Hybrids
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:55:05 +1100
I think that Google Books (and similar sites) are set up to show a slightly 
different set of pages to each IP address that logs on.

Thanks to Nev, we can now read what we want.

On 26/01/2013, at 10:31, Dave Torr <> wrote:

> Sure - understand that - if they showed it all then who would buy the book? 
> But just strange that different people see different pages. I guess if enough 
> people looked at it between us we could access all the pages!
> 
> On 26 January 2013 10:11, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
> You will see immediately after the cover page, some text that you might find 
> enlightening.
> 
> The text reads "This is a preview. The total pages displayed will be 
> limited". Iimagine that if you wish to read the non viewable pages, you will 
> have to buy the book.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Carl Clifford
> 
> On 26/01/2013, at 9:11, "Stephen Ambrose" <> wrote:
> 
> > Yes, that's interesting.  I can see pp. 1 to 19 and 150 to 180 on my
> > computer (using Internet Explorer 10 as my browser).
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Dave Torr 
> > Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2013 9:05 AM
> > To: Stephen Ambrose
> > Cc: 
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Avian Hybrids
> >
> >
> >
> > Very strange - that is what  did before and I can see pages up to 123 and
> > then the next one it shows is 181! Maybe - and this is a pure guess - they
> > show different people different pages. After all they cannot presumably show
> > the entire book for copyright reasons so perhaps what I get is different to
> > what you get?
> >
> >
> >
> > Just tested on my wife's PC using Firefox (I use Chrome as a browser).
> > Basically the same pages available there except that the ones from 124 to
> > 180 do not show at all on my PC but on hers they show as blank pages with a
> > message that the page is not available for viewing!
> >
> >
> >
> > WOuld be interested to know what other people are getting!
> >
> > On 26 January 2013 08:53, Stephen Ambrose <> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > Try this link then click on "View Sample" in top left hand corner of page,
> > scroll down to p. 173.:
> >
> > http://books.google.com.au/books/about/Handbook_of_Avian_Hybrids_of_the_Worl
> > <http://books.google.com.au/books/about/Handbook_of_Avian_Hybrids_of_the_Wor
> > l%0d%0ad.htm?id=MwInO7z_Y3oC&redir_esc=y>
> > d.htm?id=MwInO7z_Y3oC&redir_esc=y
> >
> >
> > The book states that the Lesser Black-backed Gull (Larus fuscus) has been
> > recorded interbreeding with L. argentatus (Herring Gull), L. cachinnans
> > (Yellow-legged Gull), L. canus (Mew Gull), L. glaucoides (Iceland Gull), L.
> > hyperboreus (Glaucous Gull) and L. ridibundus (Black-headed Gull).
> >
> > L. heuglini (Heuglin's Gull) has only been recorded interbreeding with L.
> > argentatus (Herring Gull).
> >
> > L. dominicanus (Kelp Gull) has been recorded interbreeding with L.
> > argentatus (Herring Gull) and L. delawarensis (Ring-billed Gull).
> >
> > So there were no records of Kelp (Cape) Gulls interbreeding with Lesser
> > Black-backed Gulls up to 2006, the year that this book was published.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > Stephen Ambrose
> > Ryde, NSW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 
> >  On Behalf Of Dave Torr
> > Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2013 7:09 AM
> > To: Stephen Ambrose
> > Cc: 
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Avian Hybrids
> >
> > Interesting - I cannot see them - pages 124-180 are not shown when I browse
> > the book online. Maybe I am doing something wrong?
> >
> > On 25 January 2013 19:29, Stephen Ambrose <> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Dave,****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Yes they do - pp. 173 to 179 (Family Laridae: Gulls, Terns & Noddies).****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Cheers,****
> >>
> >> Stephen****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> *From:* Dave Torr 
> >> *Sent:* Friday, 25 January 2013 6:23 PM
> >> *To:* Stephen Ambrose
> >> *Subject:* Re: [Birding-Aus] Avian Hybrids****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> Alas none of the pages in Google Books cover the gulls!****
> >>
> >> On 25 January 2013 17:59, Stephen Ambrose <> wrote:*
> >> ***
> >>
> >> Handbook of Avian Hybrids of the World****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >
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