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Avian Hybrids

To: Nev Capell <>
Subject: Avian Hybrids
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:19:55 +1100
Nev,

Thanks for that link. A handy addition to the library. Much better price than 
the USD 160-200+ the second hand market is asking for the title. 

Cheers,

Carl Clifford


On 26/01/2013, at 9:10, Nev Capell <> wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> Try this link;
> 
> http://www.spinus.info/Images/books/AH743697479746.pdf
> 
> Nev Capell
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Dave Torr <> wrote:
> 
>> Very strange - that is what  did before and I can see pages up to 123 and
>> then the next one it shows is 181! Maybe - and this is a pure guess - they
>> show different people different pages. After all they cannot presumably
>> show the entire book for copyright reasons so perhaps what I get is
>> different to what you get?
>> 
>> Just tested on my wife's PC using Firefox (I use Chrome as a browser).
>> Basically the same pages available there except that the ones from 124 to
>> 180 do not show at all on my PC but on hers they show as blank pages with a
>> message that the page is not available for viewing!
>> 
>> WOuld be interested to know what other people are getting!
>> 
>> On 26 January 2013 08:53, Stephen Ambrose <> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Dave,
>>> 
>>> Try this link then click on "View Sample" in top left hand corner of
>> page,
>>> scroll down to p. 173.:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://books.google.com.au/books/about/Handbook_of_Avian_Hybrids_of_the_Worl
>>> d.htm?id=MwInO7z_Y3oC&redir_esc=y
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The book states that the Lesser Black-backed Gull (Larus fuscus) has been
>>> recorded interbreeding with L. argentatus (Herring Gull), L. cachinnans
>>> (Yellow-legged Gull), L. canus (Mew Gull), L. glaucoides (Iceland Gull),
>> L.
>>> hyperboreus (Glaucous Gull) and L. ridibundus (Black-headed Gull).
>>> 
>>> L. heuglini (Heuglin's Gull) has only been recorded interbreeding with L.
>>> argentatus (Herring Gull).
>>> 
>>> L. dominicanus (Kelp Gull) has been recorded interbreeding with L.
>>> argentatus (Herring Gull) and L. delawarensis (Ring-billed Gull).
>>> 
>>> So there were no records of Kelp (Cape) Gulls interbreeding with Lesser
>>> Black-backed Gulls up to 2006, the year that this book was published.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Stephen
>>> 
>>> Stephen Ambrose
>>> Ryde, NSW
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: 
>>>  On Behalf Of Dave Torr
>>> Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2013 7:09 AM
>>> To: Stephen Ambrose
>>> Cc: 
>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Avian Hybrids
>>> 
>>> Interesting - I cannot see them - pages 124-180 are not shown when I
>> browse
>>> the book online. Maybe I am doing something wrong?
>>> 
>>> On 25 January 2013 19:29, Stephen Ambrose <>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Dave,****
>>>> 
>>>> ** **
>>>> 
>>>> Yes they do - pp. 173 to 179 (Family Laridae: Gulls, Terns &
>>> Noddies).****
>>>> 
>>>> ** **
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,****
>>>> 
>>>> Stephen****
>>>> 
>>>> ** **
>>>> 
>>>> ** **
>>>> 
>>>> *From:* Dave Torr 
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 25 January 2013 6:23 PM
>>>> *To:* Stephen Ambrose
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Birding-Aus] Avian Hybrids****
>>>> 
>>>> ** **
>>>> 
>>>> Alas none of the pages in Google Books cover the gulls!****
>>>> 
>>>> On 25 January 2013 17:59, Stephen Ambrose <>
>>> wrote:*
>>>> ***
>>>> 
>>>> Handbook of Avian Hybrids of the World****
>>>> 
>>>> ** **
>>>> 
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