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future prospects for the environment

To: "Jeremy O'Wheel" <>, Birding Aus <>
Subject: future prospects for the environment
From: Steve Clark <>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:14:33 +1000
Meanwhile...in Victoria ...

"National parks to be opened up for development"

Read more: 
http://www.theage.com.au/environment/national-parks-to-be-opened-up-for-development-20120823-24o1q.html#ixzz24L64vP3R

We can't leave anything alone it seems.

Steve

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Jeremy O'Wheel <> wrote:
> Well it's because I value birds ahead of people having fun (and think you
> can have fun in other ways).  But my comment in regards to those steps was
> somewhat facetious.  If I were elected global poobah tomorrow, I think
> you'd have to consider those "non-core promises" and I may try and come up
> with policies that aren't entirely in line with my own intangible values,
> but give some consideration to other people's values.
>
> But, of course, it's worth noting the difference between "not too bad" and
> "good."  Obviously our approaches to many environmental issues could be
> better.  I'm not saying we shouldn't care about the environment, and we
> can't do things better.  I'm just saying we're not going to end up with a
> completely destroyed environment in the near future (or even close to
> that).
>
> Jeremy
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Peter Shute <> wrote:
>
>> Jeremy, why would you take those steps if you think the state of the
>> environment is not too bad?
>>
>> Peter Shute
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From:  [birding-aus-
>> > On Behalf Of Jeremy O'Wheel
>> >Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2012 1:25 PM
>> >To: Richard King
>> >Cc: 
>> >Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] future prospects for the environment
>>
>> >It's 80 years since an Australian bird went extinct (not counting our
>> >island territories), and although if it were up to me, I'd massively
>> >increase national parks, ban the recreational use of beaches and
>> >wetlands,
>> >as well as dogs and cats, and presumably never get elected, I think we
>> >have
>> >to recognise that the state of both the Australian environment and the
>> >global environment is actually not too bad, and doom and gloom is not
>> >based
>> >on facts.
>>
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