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What value a photo?

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Subject: What value a photo?
From: inger vandyke <>
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 04:54:39 +0000
Hi Cheryl and Birding-Aus'ers,
As someone who does work professionally this is a particular bug bear of mine.  
Rather than go into a lengthy diatribe about why photographers should be paid, 
here is a link to a blog post from colleague and friend Tony Wu that explains 
the dilemma perfectly.
http://photoprofessionals.wordpress.com/
Cheers,
Inger


 
 
Inger Vandyke
 
Professional Wildlife Photographer and Writer
Expedition Leader - Western Tibet Expedition  (16 September - 7 October, 2013) 
Assistant Publicity Officer - Southern Oceans Seabird Study Association (SOSSA) 
Guest Lecturer - Photography, Freelancing and Photo Journalism - Bond 
University, Gold Coast, Australia

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www.ingervandyke.com



> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:47:01 -0700
> From: 
> To: 
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] What value a photo?
> 
> Thanks to those who have chimed in. Thinking more on this...
> 
> I guess the desire/expectation and availability of 
> freebies goes beyond photography. Interesting reading.
> 
> But my own experiences vary from 'donating' images for 
> educational purposes to actually getting paid for images 
> in books or interpretive panels etc. Or sometimes there
> might be a trade/barter arrangement. All good.
> 
> I've been thinking about the value of photos in society.
> A world without imagery would be a pretty dull place not 
> to mention affecting an organization’s ability to market 
> themselves, a great bearing on advertising and sales, 
> education, conservation, news reporting, memories, 
> recording history and events.
> 
> Imagine if all photographers giving away freebies
> suddenly exclaimed "fair suck of the sav" and
> put a stop to certain things, could be interesting.
> 
> Take photo competitions as an example. Some terms and 
> conditions are unbelievable. Some competitions seem to 
> be a front for an "image grab" - to stockpile eyecandy to 
> promote their own business/market their products/generate
> traffic/income or even distribute or onsell to others!
> 
> And really why can’t photographers stand up and be counted
> amongst other people who get compensated somewhat for their
> time/effort/product? Office workers, builders, rangers, 
> graphic designers, editors or publishers, retailers,
> hobbyists, craft makers, printing firms. 
> 
> Is a photographer’s time/product worth less?
> 
> 
> (my apologies if the formatting is a little strange!)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 7/20/12, Cheryl Ridge <> wrote:
> 
> > From: Cheryl Ridge <>
> > Subject: What value a photo?
> > To: 
> > Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 11:53 AM
> > Hi folks
> > 
> > It can feel nice to help a project out,
> > especially if it is for a "good cause"
> > and seeing one's name in print (credit line)
> > can be a buzz.
> > 
> > But is there a general expectation that bird
> > and nature images should just be supplied
> > freely to whoever asks?
> > 
> > There will always be those who cheerfully
> > give their images away because they see
> > themselves as JUST an amateur or it is
> > JUST a hobby for them.
> > 
> > Bird and nature photography is a hobby for
> > me yet I do find myself thinking more about
> > the 'value' of an image and now take a step
> > back before sending off a high resolution
> > image to someone.
> > 
> > First I will try to establish if they
> > are seeking donations/freebies, their
> > intended audience and what they plan
> > to do with the finished product. Based
> > on their response I decide if I can
> > help them.
> > 
> > If necessary I take the opportunity to 
> > mention that photographers have their 
> > own expenses, time and skills associated
> > with the image not to mention things like
> > petrol/accom costs, photography permits
> > in some cases, wear and tear on equipment
> > even insurance.
> > 
> > I am hoping other bird/nature photographers
> > might be willing to share their experiences or 
> > thoughts with regard to giving away images.
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > Cheryl Ridge
> > 
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