Hi Peter, to be honest I know very little about aviculture so that isn't what I
meant. The northern subspecies doesn't have the white rump though, and bird
breeders often aim for mutations so I would expect that to source a bunch of
wild type southern subspecies birds to release wouldn't be straightforwards.
I also wonder even if the birds were released from captivity, how that would be
any different to Regent Honeyeaters in Chiltern? Would the finches be somehow
less worth of protection? I sincerely doubt the claims have any truth though,
just more rumour mongering to discredit justifiable opposition to a nature
reserve being destroyed.
Cheers,
Chris
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On 07/05/2012, at 14:17, Peter Shute <> wrote:
> Chris Sanderson mentioned that they would have to be "wild-type
> Black-throated Finches with white rumps", implying, I assume, that these
> aren't as readily available.
>
> Peter Shute
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: brian fleming
>> Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2012 7:32 PM
>> To: Peter Shute;
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Bimblebox finches
>>
>> I am sure Black-throated Finches are readily available in avicultural
>> circles - where people are probably still calling them 'Blackhearts'.
>>
>> Certainly when I was a kid they were often seen in bird-dealers' shops
>> and stalls. I have no idea what is paid for a pair these days.
>>
>> Anthea Fleming
>>
>> On 4/05/2012 7:55 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
>>> If there was proof that this had happened then surely we'd have heard
>> about it from Clive Palmer. If there's no proof then how did this story
>> start -someone saw something suspicious, or someone just thought up a
>> good story?
>>>
>>> Are Black-throated Finches commonly kept in captivity so that someone
>> could do this? And could a captured bird be identified as released,
>> either by appearance or by DNA testing? If so then there's so much
>> money available from interested parties to do so that surely it would
>> have been done by now.
>>>
>>> Peter Shute
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [birding-aus-
>>>> On Behalf Of Ian May
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 8:44 PM
>>>> To: Grahame Rogers
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Bimblebox finches
>>>>
>>>> Heard late one night recently during a talkback session on a fading
>>>> mainland radio station (I think 7CC?), a caller talking about
>>>> opposition
>>>> to coal seem gas extraction. He stated "it was well known that
>>>> activists
>>>> were responsible for releasing captive bred Black-throated Finches
>> into
>>>> the wild at Brimblebox, to reinforce arguments for protection". Has
>>>> anyone on the list heard details and is there any truth to this?
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> St Helens, Tasmania
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Grahame Rogers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> See the email from Bimblebox Nature Refuge below. The issue of
>> mining
>>>>> in a Nature Refuge calls for a strong response.
>>>>>
>>>>> Grahame Rogers| Convenor
>>>>>
>>>>> BirdLife Southern Queensland
>>>>> 44 Emu Creek Road, Crows Nest, QLD 4355
>>>>> T07 4698 1727
>>>>> <> |
>>>>> birdlife.org.au<http://birdlife.org.au>
>>>>>
>>>>> ABN 75 149 124 744
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone
>>>>> The heat is on
>>>>> When they are scared, they lie!
>>>>> I have just heard the
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blogs.abc.net.au/queensland/2012/05/clive-palmer-showman-or-
>>>> savvy.html?site=brisbane&program=612_morning
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> podcast (go to 19min and 20'') and I am outraged and amazed of how
>>>>> many lies Palmer can pack up in such a short time!
>>>>>
>>>>> We were ready to dismiss it as 'Palmer's usual lies' to obtain what
>>>> he
>>>>> wants, that is the Mining Lease, so by bad mouthing Bimblebox yet
>>>>> again (he has done it before) ppl will start to believe in the lie,
>>>>> thus giving him the 'social licence' to destroy it. The problem is
>>>>> that the perception that ppl will have of Bimblebox now could
>> change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paola
>>>>>
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