New Aussie Bird List

To: David James <>, martin cachard <>, birding-aus threads <>
Subject: New Aussie Bird List
From: Mick Roderick <>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:31:00 -0800 (PST)
Hi David,

Thanks for clarifying that and sorry for botching the Emerald Doves up to 
people out there. I'd love to see how this taxa has been classified 


From: David James <>
To: martin cachard <>; birding-aus threads 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2011 1:31 PM
Subject: New Aussie Bird List
Hi Martin,
The Pacific Emerald Dove is the name for birds that occur on mainland Aus and 
the Pacific Islands. In Aus territory, Indian Emerald Dove occurs only on 
Christmas Island
Pacific Koel is the bird on the mainland and has been recorded at Ashmore Reef. 
Asian Koel is now regular on Christmas and Cocos so keep a look out for it in 
the NW.
Sorry, but you dip on both for now.
I will send you a spreadsheet that compares three Australian checklists: 
Christidis & Boles, the IOC-based Australian list and the BirdLife 
International-based list. If anyone else wants it let me know off line.
BTW, I am working on an amazing, sophisticated algorithm to automatically and 
accurately predict and tally your list without you having to tick off your 
species. Basically it starts with my list and removes the birds I don't care to 
David James, 


From: martin cachard <>
To: david james <>; birding-aus threads 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2011 12:29 PM
Subject: New Aussie Bird List

Hi David,
Well done with the Aust Bird List. I have to confess, that just now is the 
first time that I've had a really good look at it.
I have now downloaded it, put in my records, & have let it do all the sums for 
me.  But, I am still 8 spp short for my 700th !!
I have had a good look at HANZAB, C&B 2008, etc but I am still none the wiser 
on a few things, & I have a couple of questions for you that are a result of 
new developments that don't seem to be covered in these references...
I am not sure about the 2 Emerald Doves & the 2 Eudynamys Koels listed, so far 
as which spp occurs where ...
I have seen the doves in NW Aust, E Aust & Lord Howe Is  - have I seen both??
I have seen Koels throughout mainland Aust also - which is it that I have seen??
The rest of the new arrangement I could work out, but these stumped me!!
Thanks in advance for your clarifications,
Martin Cachard,
0428 782 808


> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:31:39 -0800
> From: 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] New Aussie Bird List
> Hi folks,
> The checklist available for download on Tony Palliser's "Birders Totals" web 
> page is not an 'official' checklist for Australia yet. It was prepared by me 
> for the "Birders Totals" web page and for BARC. However, since BARC is a 
> committee of Birds (Birdlife) Australia, BARC will not officially adopt this 
> list unless BA endorses it. BARC has therefore recommended that BA consider 
> it. Our recommended approach is not just a new list to replace Christidis & 
> Boles but a new process to have a living checklist instead of a static one, 
> consistent with the rest of the world, while retaining an appropriate guiding 
> roll in the local decisions. It is worth taking a bit of time to ensure that 
> we get it right. 
> Meanwhile it is easy and fun to calculate your list:
> Tell us what you think.
> David James, 

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