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New Aussie Bird List

To: martin cachard <>, david james <>, birding-aus threads <>
Subject: New Aussie Bird List
From: Mick Roderick <>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:22:38 -0800 (PST)
Hi Martin,
 
Funny as I was going to ask the same thing re: Emerald Doves, but as far as I 
understand it C. indica ("Common") occurs in the Top End and Kimberley (there's 
your first armchair tick) and this species also ranges into SE Asia. whereas C. 
longirostris ("Pacific") is the one found on the East Coast of Australia and 
Pacific Islands (including Lord Howe). C. natalis (from Christmas Island) is 
retained as a subspecies of (presumably) C. indica.
 
I am still wondering however, if it is that clear-cut - i.e. has either species 
been recorded in 'opposing' areas?
 
I think Asian Koel has only been recorded on Christmas / Cocos Islands but 
recall comments about birds in WA possibly being this species.
 
Surely there are other species soon-to-be-recognised? One that springs to mind 
is Silver-backed Butcherbird.
 
Mick


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From: martin cachard <>
To: david james <>; birding-aus threads 
<> 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2011 12:29 PM
Subject: New Aussie Bird List


Hi David, Well done with the Aust Bird List. I have to confess, that just now 
is the first time that I've had a really good look at it. I have now downloaded 
it, put in my records, & have let it do all the sums for me.  But, I am still 8 
spp short for my 700th !! I have had a good look at HANZAB, C&B 2008, etc but I 
am still none the wiser on a few things, & I have a couple of questions for you 
that are a result of new developments that don't seem to be covered in these 
references... I am not sure about the 2 Emerald Doves & the 2 Eudynamys Koels 
listed, so far as which spp occurs where ...I have seen the doves in NW Aust, E 
Aust & Lord Howe Is  - have I seen both??I have seen Koels throughout mainland 
Aust also - which is it that I have seen?? The rest of the new arrangement I 
could work out, but these stumped me!! Thanks in advance for your 
clarifications, Martin Cachard,Cairns,0428 782 808  
> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:31:39 -0800
> From: 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] New Aussie Bird List
> 
> Hi folks,
>  
> The checklist available for download on Tony Palliser's "Birders Totals" web 
> page is not an 'official' checklist for Australia yet. It was prepared by me 
> for the "Birders Totals" web page and for BARC. However, since BARC is a 
> committee of Birds (Birdlife) Australia, BARC will not officially adopt this 
> list unless BA endorses it. BARC has therefore recommended that BA consider 
> it. Our recommended approach is not just a new list to replace Christidis & 
> Boles but a new process to have a living checklist instead of a static one, 
> consistent with the rest of the world, while retaining an appropriate guiding 
> roll in the local decisions. It is worth taking a bit of time to ensure that 
> we get it right. 
>  
> Meanwhile it is easy and fun to calculate your list:
> http://www.tonypalliser.com/totals.html
> 
> Tell us what you think.
> 
> David James, 
> Sydney
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> ________________________________
> From: Dave Torr <>
> To: Tom Tarrant <> 
> Cc: birding-aus <> 
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 November 2011 6:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] New Aussie Bird List
> 
> Note that version 3.0c (not yet official I guess) also lists all recognised
> subspecies, so for the first time we may have an "official" Aus ssp list
> 
> On 21 November 2011 21:40, Tom Tarrant <> wrote:
> 
> > Great news! The IOC seem to be keeping the subject very interesting,
> > download their latest version at http://www.worldbirdnames.org/index.html
> >
> > Looking forward to David and Tony's input.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Richard Baxter <
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > >            I'm not 100% sure on this topic.  Tony Palliser would be able
> > > to verify but I hear there will be no update to C&B 2008.  The new
> > Birdlife
> > > Australia has/will adopt the IOC list and Tony and David James have done
> > an
> > > excellent job of condensing the IOC list into a replacement for C & B.
> > >
> > > Good news for the Australian birding community as we'll see the list
> > > updated when the IOC announce new splits/lumps every few months rather
> > than
> > > wait 10+ years.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Richard Baxter
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