Yes, Jeff and Martin you're absolutely correct. I did have my ssp mixed up.
The new Thick-billed is the one many people see at the whiteface site at
Lyndhurst and surrounds. My visit to Mt Ive was two fold as I'd only ever had
very poor, barely tickable views of Short-tailed in the Flinders and wanted to
see them again.
Although Western/Thick-billed are flat/low country birds, I have heard that the
Whyallah birds are found on the hill tops in the Conservation Park near town.
I've never been there but this is something I've often wondered about. Perhaps
someone who has been to Whyallah CP can comment on this.
Next stop: whitei androwleyi.
I now think albatross taxonomy is easier than grasswren taxonomy!
Cheers
Richard
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From: Jeff Davies <>
To: 'martin cachard' <>; ;
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Sent: Tuesday, 22 November 2011 11:50 AM
Subject: New Grasswren Species
I think I should have explained more clearly, the important thing to realize
is that the Western and Thick-billed are not actually on the ranges but on
the flat country.
I was just continuing on from Richards original post by saying he should
have gone to the Flinders not the Gawlers, neither species are actually on
the hills although they can be very close by. When I said Flinders I
actually meant adjacent places like Lyndhurst which sits at the top of that
range.
Short-tailed GW however is actually on the slopes of both ranges and nowhere
else.
Cheers Jeff.
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Sent: Tuesday, 22 November 2011 9:52 AM
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Subject: New Grasswren Species
Hi Steve, The bird at Whyallah is race myall of Western, same race Richard
saw in the Gawlers. Form modestus (ie the new species split) is widespread
in the Eyrean zone, which Jeff explains. I have seen lots of them north from
Lake Torrens in the Mt Lyndhurst area & right along the Oodnadatta Track,
especially near William Creek. Cheers Martin CachardCairns
> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:35:13 +1100
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> G'day all
>
> What is the species/subspecies of Grasswren in Whyallah Conservation
> Park, SA please? I saw what I called Thick-billed there in 1999.
> What would the current taxonomic position be for these?
>
> Cheers
> Steve Clark
> Hamilton
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